Cost for pool permit in TOH? (power lines, house, buy)

[luvmyboys]

Hi!

My neighbor and I got into a fight (she hates my birdfeeder) and reported us to the town. We have a pool that came as a "gift" with the house when we moved here in 1996. The pool is an above ground that was put in in 1991. We need to put fencing in and need a permit for the pool. TOH cannot give prices over the phone (what? Is there competition?) for the permit. Anyone have a ballpark figure? It's an 18 ft. above ground, no deck surrounding it.

Thanks!

[TomMoser]

Try calling the town again. At TOH it depends on who you get and what side of bed they got up on that morning. Your looking at just a couple of hundred dollars. By the way, never buy anything where the listing says something is a "gift". That means that it has no CO and it can come back to bite you later. Usually it's an above ground pool, a deck, or a shed.

[Kbinspections]

IMO, take down the pool and start from scratch. Are there any overhead wires nearby?

If its existing the fee will be 2-3x more than if it was for a new pool.

Most above ground pools will fail because the pool is not bonded.

[luvmyboys]

My husband went to TOH and everyone was so helpful (being REALLY sarcastic). He said they have a sheet with about 2,000 lines on it with fees for the pool under 2,000 different circumstances. The woman at the front desk told him to "just pay $5,000". Yeah, okay. He gave them $250 and we'll work from there.

There should be something that's grandfathered. Thanks for the heads up about not accepting "gifts", but it's about 11 years too late! LOL! Now we know for the future. This was our first house and no one ever said anything about permits. I spoke to someone today and was telling him what's going on and he thought that you just need permits for inground pools. If TOH wants people to comply, they should be more helpful and not penalize people for doing "the right thing", which most people don't do until they're reported. Why would you put yourself through all this anguish and run-around unless you had to?

As for power lines, we have lines in our neighbor's yard (not the one that reported) and they're about 11 feet away from the pool. We can't afford a brand new pool, so starting from scratch isn't really an option. Worst comes to worst, we may just have to get rid of it. When the inspector came, she said she didn't see a reason why we couldn't get a permit, other than the issues of the pool area not being secure.

I have 2 children and understand everyone's concerned about drownings. I don't know how I'd feel if I was a senior citizen who's had a pool for years and have to put up fencing, alarms, etc., because someone's kid may wander into my pool and drown. People have had pools for years on LI. I don't think the problem is with the pools, I think it lies in parents who don't watch their children. If your 2 year old doesn't show up for lunch, don't you wonder where they are? The older people that've drowned seem like it's from inexperience and/or poor judgement.

Anyway, just wanted to say thanks for the responses. I didn't mean for it to turn into a novel.

[Kbinspections]

Originally Posted by luvmyboys

My husband went to TOH and everyone was so helpful (being REALLY sarcastic). He said they have a sheet with about 2,000 lines on it with fees for the pool under 2,000 different circumstances. The woman at the front desk told him to "just pay $5,000". Yeah, okay. He gave them $250 and we'll work from there.

There should be something that's grandfathered. Thanks for the heads up about not accepting "gifts", but it's about 11 years too late! LOL! Now we know for the future. This was our first house and no one ever said anything about permits. I spoke to someone today and was telling him what's going on and he thought that you just need permits for inground pools. If TOH wants people to comply, they should be more helpful and not penalize people for doing "the right thing", which most people don't do until they're reported. Why would you put yourself through all this anguish and run-around unless you had to?

As for power lines, we have lines in our neighbor's yard (not the one that reported) and they're about 11 feet away from the pool. We can't afford a brand new pool, so starting from scratch isn't really an option. Worst comes to worst, we may just have to get rid of it. When the inspector came, she said she didn't see a reason why we couldn't get a permit, other than the issues of the pool area not being secure.

I have 2 children and understand everyone's concerned about drownings. I don't know how I'd feel if I was a senior citizen who's had a pool for years and have to put up fencing, alarms, etc., because someone's kid may wander into my pool and drown. People have had pools for years on LI. I don't think the problem is with the pools, I think it lies in parents who don't watch their children. If your 2 year old doesn't show up for lunch, don't you wonder where they are? The older people that've drowned seem like it's from inexperience and/or poor judgement.

Anyway, just wanted to say thanks for the responses. I didn't mean for it to turn into a novel.

The overhead lines must be 10 feet(horizonally) away so double check before you spend any money.....

[luvmyboys]

Originally Posted by Kbinspections

The overhead lines must be 10 feet(horizonally) away so double check before you spend any money.....

I guess LIPA gives those measurements? My husband was saying something about a hotstick (is that the right term?) test that LIPA does. The line that goes to our house is 14 feet away. The other one that is behind our yard is hard to measure. It's 9 ft. and change from the pool to the fence.

Thanks for all your help with this. I really appreciate it.

[garyeast]

Hi Can anyone help out there! , Where looking at putting in a pool in our back yard[Fibreglass]. The only way in is over the top of the house from the front with a crane. There are above hed Powerlines that are right in the pathway. Are we able to organize Power to be turned off and power lines moved takendown for a short period of time while crane drops pool inthe ground.P.s the over head power lines are the ones that go to our house[Main power Telephone line and cable t.v. line]
Thanks Gary

[kayfouroh]

Originally Posted by Kbinspections

IMO, take down the pool and start from scratch. Are there any overhead wires nearby?

If its existing the fee will be 2-3x more than if it was for a new pool.

Most above ground pools will fail because the pool is not bonded.

wouldn't you be paying more by ripping down the existing pool, getting a permit, and recreating the pool?

[scottzilla]

I'll be needing a new survey for a recent addition I did on my property. I plan on covering my entire aboveground pool and deck with the biggest tarp you've ever seen. If the survey guy asks what's under the tarp I plan on telling him "Nothng".