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I agree with you, but its not their fault *we* let things get so out of control, they are just getting away with what they can like the double dipping school supers.
Its the system that's effed up.
Figure out how we can fix & then you're on to something
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yes, I personally know several NYPD officers & while they are paid like crap, they are excellent at what they do, they are dedicated, they are good family people.
Why do our LI officers have to be paid four or five times more than the city cops?
I have to agree with pdncret, get over it, it's a contract that isn't going to change by complaining. What you can do is start making your voice heard by those who negotiate the contracts.
If you don't mind paying to make cops wealthy, then do me a favor and open up your check book. This isn't a guy who made a good career choice, this is an example of just how broken the system is.
And no, I will not get over it. My fellow long islanders, as do those people thinking of moving here, need to see the inequity. Just because it is a contract doesn't mean we can't complain. How about I sign a contract with the county saying it should pay me 50,000 a year to pick my nose. Are you going to state then that, "well its a contract and it isn't going to change by complaing"? Clamboy said it best - sunshine is the best disinfactant.
Then complain all you want but don't expect anything to change until the next contract negotiation. Then when it does you better be working full time with as many citizens as possible to force your views to be heard. Also you better have a better argument than SCPD is paid too much and have a good solution to the problem ready.
Sorry but if someone is smart enough to take advantage of a broken system then that is a good career choice.
Also you better have a better argument than SCPD is paid too much and have a good solution to the problem ready.
Sorry but if someone is smart enough to take advantage of a broken system then that is a good career choice.
First of all, I do have a better argument than that. I guess you haven't been reading the other threads.
Secondly, that is very Machiavellian of you to say. So if an ATM is broken and spits out money I should just take it? I'm sorry, but I guess I live at a higher standard than you. I was brought up differently it seems. As to the police, I don't begrudge them for their salaries, but abusing OT, especially to increase pensions is 150% wrong.
Nope, one is stealing and the other is how the system works. Don't like the way the system works, then change it, but sitting behind your computer insulting the SCPD isn't going to do much in that regard.
If just discussing economics, we can say that any job can be done for less. Anyone out there who is working can certainly do their job for less money, but the question is . . . would you?
If just discussing economics, we can say that any job can be done for less. Anyone out there who is working can certainly do their job for less money, but the question is . . . would you?
Wrong again - because those of us in the private sector are paid based upon the supply of our labor and the demand for it. If we are paid too much money, we can be laid off. If a company has 30,000 applicants for 200 open positions, and it can and will lower the compensation for those positions. This is not the case with the police force.
Nope, one is stealing and the other is how the system works. Don't like the way the system works, then change it, but sitting behind your computer insulting the SCPD isn't going to do much in that regard.
I'm not inslting anyone, just bringing to light the inequities that exist. Sorry if this differs from your agenda.
And again, if you don't think the police officers artificially increasing their OT the 3 years before they are retiring is not stealing, then we just have 2 entirely different sets of morals and must agree to disagree.
No cop bashing here, I repsect and appreciate the job they do that I would not do, the stress and problems they face I cannot comprehend.
They are however overcompensated by a system in dire need of reform. I won't comment on the 125K average salary, but the pension program is like a winning lottery ticket.
Spiking overtime the last 3 years before retirement is the norm, cops will bust their a** for 3 years, making 140, 160, 180K a year to boost their average earnings. If the cop joined the force at 19, he can retire at 39 years old and collect 70, 80, 90K a year for the rest of their and their spouses lives.
This is not an indictment on the individuals, I would work hard and squeeze every nickel I could out for retirement as well. The issue is that the taxpayers foot the bill and it is not right, no public companies offer these type of benefits. They would go out of business. Very few companies even offer pensions anymore. Reform is neeed in most state governments to curb these excessive pensions.
To answer the OP, yes, if compensation was reduced but still fair there would be no drop off in quality people joining the force.
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