Getting POUNDED tonight (Garden City, Floral Park, Westbury: price, bus, safe)

[ADNY007]

I think what you guyss are failing to realize is that the noise and the air traffic was not like this before. Therefore, the arguments of people complaining because they bought their house in a flight track is has no merit. the FAA changed flight patterns. Crookhaven and Suffolk Guy would you sarcasm on getting pounded tonight change if flights began to go over your house? I thought so. Be careful of how you judge others as one day you will be judged the same.

[sean sean sean sean]

Originally Posted by ADNY007

I think what you guyss are failing to realize is that the noise and the air traffic was not like this before. Therefore, the arguments of people complaining because they bought their house in a flight track is has no merit. the FAA changed flight patterns. Crookhaven and Suffolk Guy would you sarcasm on getting pounded tonight change if flights began to go over your house? I thought so. Be careful of how you judge others as one day you will be judged the same.

Have you read the 30 or so posts "samyn on the green" has been kind enough to provide? The approaches for JFK have been identical for 50 years, they didn't change anything. The only difference seems to be that the traffic has gotten more JAMMED UP!!

[ADNY007]

Whatever Samyn says may be correct. However, I have lived in an area for 10 years and can tell you first hand that things have changed. If the post bothers people, don't read it.

[crv1010]

Originally Posted by ADNY007

I think what you guyss are failing to realize is that the noise and the air traffic was not like this before. Therefore, the arguments of people complaining because they bought their house in a flight track is has no merit. the FAA changed flight patterns. Crookhaven and Suffolk Guy would you sarcasm on getting pounded tonight change if flights began to go over your house? I thought so. Be careful of how you judge others as one day you will be judged the same.

I agree with you 100%. I also think we should utilize this forum as a way of organizing/putting a group together to fight this huge quality of life issue.

[SaucyAussie]

Doesn't pretty much all of Nassau get pounded by jet noise? I lived in W. Hempstead until a couple of months ago and sometimes it was so loud I thought we were getting buzzed by a fighther jet. I literally ran out of my my house to make sure a 747 wasn't landing in the next street.

But the tradeoff was we were a 10 minute drive to JFK door-to-door. And anyway I like planes, my kids like planes. I used to try and catch a look at the daily Qantas flight at about 5:00PM with the big red kangaroo on the tail...No jet noise here in Raleigh!

[Crookhaven]

Originally Posted by ADNY007

I think what you guyss are failing to realize is that the noise and the air traffic was not like this before. Therefore, the arguments of people complaining because they bought their house in a flight track is has no merit. the FAA changed flight patterns. Crookhaven and Suffolk Guy would you sarcasm on getting pounded tonight change if flights began to go over your house? I thought so. Be careful of how you judge others as one day you will be judged the same.

If you dont like getting POUNDED, move.

You live on the fringe of the biggest City in the world.
What did you expect?

No judgment, just common sense.

As time goes on would a rational person anticipate more/less air and road traffic on LI? Didnt you consider that when you bought your home?
"Hmm Im marrying this for 30 years....what could the future have in store?"
C'mon now, this thread is ridiculous.

Nassau is Urban look at the map, and by the time I pay off my note, Suffolk will be as well.
http://www.dec.ny.gov/images/air_ima...hrpm25fig5.jpg
Deal with it. I accept the inevitability of my Fair Isle and I accept that I do not live in the country anymore(or really the suburbs for that matter, we're closer to Queens than we'd care to admit).

Perhaps we are a victim of our own success?

Who knows maybe this New Suburbia will be awesome? I have an open mind.
(Stamford and White Plains dont offend me, maybe we'll get some real jobs out here?)
We all seem to agree that were light on infrastructure.

We'll see, but by all means march on City Hall and fight like hell for your Time Machine.
Let us know how you make out.

Crooks

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[Rachael84]

I agree with the 2 posters above. John, you're renting, so you can easily move.

[Johninwestbury]

Originally Posted by Rachael84

I agree with the 2 posters above. John, you're renting, so you can easily move.

I aint going anywhere over this. That admits defeat. Bottom line is if everybody moved when quality of life issues arose, alot of areas would be ghostowns. Sometimes we need to stand up and fight.
Of course my coping measure is keeping the windows closed.

[samyn on the green]

If there is any question about approaches to runway 22, here is a chart from 1951 showing the old style "range" approach to Runway 22 which has only changed by a few degrees in 58 years. The approach is the line depicted as heading 218 degrees over Rochdale, Vally Stream, Garden City, Westbury and Roslyn. Planes have been flying over these areas for over sixty years on their approach to JFK nee Idlewild and little has changed except for volume of traffic.
http://www.seaboardairlines.org/misc/chart1a.jpg (broken link)

[azzurrony]

Samyn,

That flight path would be a Godsend. Unfortunately, I believe it was in the 70's that the VOR path above Garden City was opened. The 218 degree path here would be over western Floral Park and not affect Stewart Manor or GC.