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Old 04-08-2010, 06:27 AM
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So, this Mangano dude is making a step in the right direction for some property tax relief for Nassau residents with his 4 year assessment plan replacing the yearly assessments. Not the be all end all, but at least it's something. Now, and this is what got me po'd...the Democrats are already trying to undermine him questioning whether this move is legal or not and threatening to stop him.
C'mon. Give us a break already. Quit being babies.
There may finally be a little bit of light at the end of the tunnel, and these knuckleheads are trying to cause problems. Stupid politicians.
They're all such babies regardless of party.
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Old 04-08-2010, 07:17 AM
 
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Redoing the assessment is not going to lower taxes except if someone's home was assessed incorrectly. I don't hear them talking about lowering taxes.
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Old 04-08-2010, 07:23 AM
 
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Agree with p.p. - they will still collect the tax they need to make their payouts.

Also, the reason the Dems are questioning the legality is because this ridiculous yearly re-assessment was brought about by the good people of Roosevelt who were not happy with the assessed value/taxation of their homes in relation to towns that are much wealthier. But - ooops! - when their property value went down, their taxes still went up because the county needs its money! And, the judge who ruled in that suit ruled that houses must be re-assessed every year. So I think that is where the Dems are coming from.
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Old 04-08-2010, 07:44 AM
 
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1. Property taxes are the sum of the product of the assessment and the tax rate for the various taxing districts within which a property is located.

2. The tax rate for a specific taxing district is the budget for that specific taxing district divided by the sum of the assessments within that taxing district.
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Old 04-08-2010, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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The County only gets a portion of your property taxes that amounts to less than 30%. They are NOT the big eaters at the trough. Our runaway taxes are NOT the fault of the County Executive, but people blame him anyway. (That was good in the case of Suozzi because I wanted him gone anyway.) Look at what's really affecting your property taxes and it sure isn't the County ... 6 figure cops included.
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Old 04-08-2010, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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The assessment freeze is just a gimmick and overall a bad idea. All this really does is help out those who put various extensions, renovations on their homes by delaying when the tax increases would take place for the improvements on their home. Not only that, but your taxes could wind up being a little higher than they otherwise would have been due to the fact the same $$$ needs to be collected, and the extra tax $$$ from those doing the extensions and renovations are delayed.
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Old 04-08-2010, 01:50 PM
 
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Redoing the assessment is not going to lower taxes except if someone's home was assessed incorrectly. .
And most of them are. That is Manganos argument. Mangano thinks residents should pay far less in Taxes across the board. Residents of nassau should make their voices heard and vote out the democrats that oppose lowering taxes. Democrats want to crush people with taxes so they will be more dependent on the government. New York is a blue state so some of you must have caught on to that by now.
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Old 04-08-2010, 02:05 PM
 
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And most of them are. That is Manganos argument. Mangano thinks residents should pay far less in Taxes across the board.

Even if that were true (most houses were over-assessed) and all houses were correctly assessed at a lower value, unless the budgets of the various taxing districts where a house is located was reduced, then the property tax rate would, by definition, have to rise, meaning that the property tax would remain the same, or increase if the budget for the various taxing districts where a house is located increased.

Lower property taxes depend on lowering the budgets of the various, and many, taxing districts.
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Old 04-08-2010, 02:14 PM
 
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Even if that were true (most houses were over-assessed) and all houses were correctly assessed at a lower value, unless the budgets of the various taxing districts where a house is located was reduced, then the property tax rate would, by definition, have to rise, meaning that the property tax would remain the same, or increase if the budget for the various taxing districts where a house is located increased.

Lower property taxes depend on lowering the budgets of the various, and many, taxing districts.
Thank you Walter you are 100% correct. One of Mangano's goals is to reduce government. Smaller government equals lower taxes. NY is a major proponent of big government. The people of New York have allowed this to happen. I was shocked to see Souzzi voted out but the rest of the dems aren't going to stand by and see their power and influence being reduced.
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Old 04-08-2010, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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And most of them are. That is Manganos argument. Mangano thinks residents should pay far less in Taxes across the board. Residents of nassau should make their voices heard and vote out the democrats that oppose lowering taxes. Democrats want to crush people with taxes so they will be more dependent on the government. New York is a blue state so some of you must have caught on to that by now.
Its the budget that controls taxes, not assessment. As Walter points out whether everyone's assessments were dropped it would not matter. It is the budget that actually matter. What assessment does is determine who pays what, but how its spread out is in relation to the average assessment of a particular taxing district. For example if your assessed value falls in line with the average assessed value in a particular taxing district your taxes will be the same regardless if your value is $500,000 or $400,000, etc.

Not to mention school taxes, make up the bulk of the property taxes on LI, that isn't a Democratic or Republican thing and no one at the county level whether Democrat or Republican has any control over. BTW, as far as the County is concerned, the bulk of the property taxes paid to the county, go to the Police.
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