People in LA vs. NY (San Diego, Thousand Oaks: attorney, school, maintenance)

[munchitup]

Originally Posted by guest4

i walk 4 miles per hour. that is almost jogging speed. it's so bad that i have to walk in the street because the people on the sidewalks at NYC speed are too slow for me. i was in LA for one day but can't remember anything other than seeing some actor people in costumes at that chinese theater. then some stores were hawking souvenirs. i also couldn't find a train or bus station. i had come in a tour bus from anaheim (was there for work for a few days).

There is a train station literally 600 feet from the Grauman's Theater. It's sort of huge too, I don't see how you could miss it. http://goo.gl/maps/0co84

[BarcelonaFan]

Originally Posted by trancedout

BarcelonaFan...did it ever amaze you how most in Texas found it to be the end-all-be-all? Like those things you mentioned "strong conservatism, traditionalism and systematic racism" NEVER once crossed their minds?

And if it was ever brought up - it was instantly dismissed as false, or they'd say you must be "bitter"? Those are types in my opinion are significantly more insufferable than the most annoying Silverlake hipster. They are also by far the majority, in the midwest at least.

I've always been amazed by how the midwest is like that. Even the slightest thing you dare bring up you dislike, they will tell you that you are so wrong and have no idea. Usually something like that. It's this level of fanaticism those regions have that can be very impressive.

Yes, Texans think that their culture and their way of doing things is the right state of mind to be in and the correct way of doing things. Everywhere else is literally "weird". Everything is "weird" or "gay" to them.

So there is a very annoying stubborn attitude there that just irked me to no end. But then again you come to LA and it's just the same annoying attitude among some (mostly hispters, yipsters, industry folk, etc.). They basically just assert (through sarcasm of course) their way of life because it's what established in pop culture, fashion, music, film, etc. To go against it is literally "living under a rock". Southerners and especially Texans tend to be "anti-establishment" but in such a perverse right wing conservative way that it just seems like they reject anything liberal for the hell of it. It's literally being reactionary "punk rawk".

[idontknowwhat]

From what I'be heard they're two of the worst places to live in the world.

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Originally Posted by idontknowwhat

From what I'be heard they're two of the worst places to live in the world.

If you hate big cities. Another person could say these are the two best cities to live in.

[BarcelonaFan]

Originally Posted by idontknowwhat

From what I'be heard they're two of the worst places to live in the world.

TX and CA, or TX and LA, or TX and LA-Silverlake?

Well from a sub-section of the people represented in LA and TX yes, this can get quite frustrating. You basically go from one group of people who are adament about Coca Cola to another group of people who are adament about Pepsi. But at least the former is based off of retaining an element of the 'man of the wild' tradition, i.e. learning survival skills, basic mechanics, useful stuff, while the other is just leeching off the work of others and lambasting people for not hearing about XYZ or being hip enough to know about XYZ.

There is an element which I love in CA though and it's the liberal organic farmer/hiker types who are into farming and some even in hunting, fishing their own food. They don't do it with the same sort of boorish pride that Texans or Southerns employ.

[BarcelonaFan]

Damn, IDon'tKnowWhat was talking about LA and NY and I just went into another rant for nothing. LOL Typical right?

To answer that question they're two big cities that are some of the best places to live in. I mean of course if you dislike big cities then they're not going to appeal to most.

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I'm looking forward to my NY trip this summer more and more. I was in both LA and NY last summer, made for a fun comparison.

[moonsparkle]

Originally Posted by BarcelonaFan

Yes, Texans think that their culture and their way of doing things is the right state of mind to be in and the correct way of doing things. Everywhere else is literally "weird". Everything is "weird" or "gay" to them.

So there is a very annoying stubborn attitude there that just irked me to no end. But then again you come to LA and it's just the same annoying attitude among some (mostly hispters, yipsters, industry folk, etc.). They basically just assert (through sarcasm of course) their way of life because it's what established in pop culture, fashion, music, film, etc. To go against it is literally "living under a rock". Southerners and especially Texans tend to be "anti-establishment" but in such a perverse right wing conservative way that it just seems like they reject anything liberal for the hell of it. It's literally being reactionary "punk rawk".

Think of all the yuppies/hipsters in the major Texas cities. They may actually be more annoying (it's just that you have to look for it more since they aren't as common), a lot of it is usually overcorrection for being from somewhere not known to be impressive. The same way 'thugs' in the midwest think they're more ghetto than anyone. Then you those in Texas who want to prove Texas is as liberal as NYC & LA, when it's not. They are gonna break the stereotypes and if you disagree, then you are ignorant. They set the bar for "insufferable" in my opinion.

The average thug in Des Moines or Omaha, thinks he's way more of a thug than a legit shot-caller OG Crip from Compton. I've noticed this formula can applied to yuppies, artists, hipsters, basically anyone who strongly identifies with a particular group.

[nslander]

Originally Posted by munchitup

There is a train station literally 600 feet from the Grauman's Theater. It's sort of huge too, I don't see how you could miss it. Google Maps

Because he was more concerned about maintaining his Gotham-esque walking speed than paying attention.

[munchitup]

Originally Posted by BarcelonaFan

TX and CA, or TX and LA, or TX and LA-Silverlake?

Well from a sub-section of the people represented in LA and TX yes, this can get quite frustrating. You basically go from one group of people who are adament about Coca Cola to another group of people who are adament about Pepsi. But at least the former is based off of retaining an element of the 'man of the wild' tradition, i.e. learning survival skills, basic mechanics, useful stuff, while the other is just leeching off the work of others and lambasting people for not hearing about XYZ or being hip enough to know about XYZ.

There is an element which I love in CA though and it's the liberal organic farmer/hiker types who are into farming and some even in hunting, fishing their own food. They don't do it with the same sort of boorish pride that Texans or Southerns employ.

I'm really not trying to be rude but... You have a lot to learn about Southern California. I mean this kind of thing makes me laugh - Sometimes I think you are trapped in a Jud Apatow movie. There are plenty of people in Southern California who fit your description of this "man of the wild" thing to a "T", for some reason the place in the LA area that comes to mind first is the South Bay or the Inland Empire. California is famous for its car culture, and tune-ups, modifications and repair jobs are all part of that

Maybe these types aren't exactly in LA, but are debutante's husbands in Dallas fixing up their old Chevy too?

Branching further out from LA these types of people become more and more common. And most of them aren't hippies or organic types, but red-blooded 'Mericans. I'm from the area near Solvang (I mention it because I know you went there), and just about everyone I grew up with hunted, fished and fixed their own car (of course we are kind of out in the sticks).