Reality of LA's 'black neighborhoods' (Long Beach, Torrance: rentals, crime rate, new home)

[abstrak_tokatl]

oh here's a fun fact. the only blacks i've seen in my 25 years her in east L.A. where my teach in elementary (who hit on my mother constantly - no issue there), two love bird crack addicts, a friend who was in love with Moesha (which he later renounced after meeting her), and my best friend's father who was strung out all the time.

Should i assume that all blacks are like that?

Five peoples.... No "official" stats. None of them were gang bangers. They were all just humans.

[proteus]

This posting isn't about 'where blacks are moving to,' it's about LA. Many blacks are moving to Atlanta. A family from Compton can sell their $300,000 house and buy a McMansion in 'affluent' Stone Mountain and a large house in quite affluent Cascade Heights, but Cascade and Stone are hardly the kind of 'affluent' I'm 'talking' about when I mention Ladera Heights and View Park where houses range from $770k-$2million... or even Carson's Dominguez Hills where homes average in the $600k range. Stone Mountain and Cascade Heights are nice communities and considered affluent... by Atlanta standards. 'Black neighborhood' in LA means affluent by any standard. It's just a story of change and progress... good news. Nothing to do w/ Mexicans or the South.

[James T]

Originally Posted by abstrak_tokatl

Living in East L.A., blaming Mexicans (legal or otherwise) for crimes is stupid. That's like blaming whites for crimes in white neighborhoods because they are white there. (and btw, many Mexicans are white). East L.A IS predominately Latino/Mexican/Hispanic/Jewish/Koren/Japanese/Cambodian/Chinese/etc, So it would be expected that if any crimes were committed, it would be by some one that is in this area. But to blanket label them (us) as gang members or gang bangers is the same BS you are listing as blacks.

Statistics are only gained from those items that are reported, not from the factual.

btw, last i heard, don't move to washington d.c. every black person is labelled as a crack addict and not allowed within a block of the white house.

Shall we continue with the sterotypes and rumors?

The statistics are not factual, you're implying? Okay, fine. Perhaps we should consult experienced law enforcement officers, or listen to a police radio to find out what crimes are being reported in which neighborhoods and develop a basis for comparison. I can no longer listen to police channels since the LAPD moved to 800mHz and began scrambling their transmissions, but in the eighties and nineties I heard enough on my Radio Shack scanner to reach my own empirical conclusions. Et tu?

[desertdawgx]

Who cares as long as they are not pullin white folk out of cars kicking their face in and rioting.

[Jonah K]

Originally Posted by proteus

This posting isn't about 'where blacks are moving to,' it's about LA. Many blacks are moving to Atlanta. A family from Compton can sell their $300,000 house and buy a McMansion in 'affluent' Stone Mountain and a large house in quite affluent Cascade Heights, but Cascade and Stone are hardly the kind of 'affluent' I'm 'talking' about when I mention Ladera Heights and View Park where houses range from $770k-$2million... or even Carson's Dominguez Hills where homes average in the $600k range. Stone Mountain and Cascade Heights are nice communities and considered affluent... by Atlanta standards. 'Black neighborhood' in LA means affluent by any standard. It's just a story of change and progress... good news. Nothing to do w/ Mexicans or the South.

Of course, that $2 million house in Ladera Heights would probably be worth $3 million or so in Manhattan Beach. With real estate, it's all about location.

[marilyn220]

Okay, I've been seeing several threads like these lately.

Why is living in a "black" neighborhood so important? I mean it's 2007 already, when will these "divisions" end?

[hgclyde]

I remember about 10 years ago when K Hovnavian broke ground with Dominquez Hills Village development in Carson, I was surprised and optimistic other development would head in to South LA North LB. There has been some development such as Renaissance in Inglewood brought market rate homes the area; Its a long way to and is welcomed.

Its true upscale African American neighborhoods don't get the respect they deserve most of the stereotypes which overshadows success in there areas and secondly, our communities being smaller are also routinely overlooked. Not only that business go were the dollars are at they also go we the people are at. One example Harlem USA in New York most of the stores out sell the Midtown Manhattan, Upper East Side,and Upper West Side branches.
Unfortunately, getting high end retailers to take the plunge there has kept developers from repeating the process in other cities like here in LA as well as Chicago, Detroit, Miami et al. but that slowly changing; until then we'll continue to go to Beverly Hills, Century City, Fox Hills, Westside Pavillion for merchandise That Baldwin Hills-Crenshaw Plaza will not sell because preconceived notions by retailers (and Baldwin Hills is doing very well thank you very much). Not to take anything away from the communities success.

It's the mindset.

[Vicman]

The Next American City (http://www.americancity.org/article.php?id_article=135 - broken link)

This article explains pitfalls experienced by many African-American middle and upper class neighborhoods.

I have a feeling that the issues in the article will someday be overcome by the said neighborhoods. Since this was written in 2004, some people feel PG County, Maryland overcame some of the issues in the article.

[marilyn220]

Originally Posted by Vicman

The Next American City (http://www.americancity.org/article.php?id_article=135 - broken link)

This article explains pitfalls experienced by many African-American middle and upper class neighborhoods.

I have a feeling that the issues in the article will someday be overcome by the said neighborhoods. Since this was written in 2004, some people feel PG County, Maryland overcame some of the issues in the article.

Great article.

I hope all of these separatist communities get done away with completely. We're in a new century and this nonsense is still going on. Shameful. Just shameful.

[James T]

Why are there people who dress like gansters and cars that look like ganster cars in neighborhoods such as View Park? I drove through View Park about 4 months ago and it was a little frightening to see kids roaming around with baggy pants and cars with the huge lettering on the rear window, gold wheel rims, etc.