New Wilshire Grand Tower L.A.

[tspoon91]

Originally Posted by GatsbyGatz

Skyscrapers are definitely more about ego than about practical purpose.

For example, this skyscraper is replacing a prior hotel... so some hundred needed hotel rooms will be added. LA's other tallest, the US Bank Tower, looks lovely but is somewhat empty due to the lack of demand for office space in DTLA and the owners nearly went bankrupt as a result. It is currently under review to re-purpose the US Bank Tower for mixed use office and residential since it isn't likely for new office space to be needed.

So LA will likely not be getting a new skyscraper office tower given the lack of demand for office space. Any new high rise that will be built in the future will either be another hotel ala Wilshire Grand or a mixed use tower with residential and hotel space.

LA is too spread out to need to build vertically (even though LA has a top 10 skyline IMO

[ProjectMersh]

Originally Posted by tspoon91

It is somewhat of an ego thing because bigger is better in this case, only because the skyline is the face of a city. if ur city has a bold handsome skyline it gives a feeling of being more important and busy and higher energy level.. Los Angeles is suburban compared to NYC, SF, Philly or Boston. LA is an amazing city but it will always feel like a big TOWN instead of a bustling thriving city like SF. im in Wisconsin btw and we have no cities like SF or LA

You are way off base. Yes, compared to Manhattan just about anywhere in the USA looks suburban. But take a walk in Koreatown or down 6th Street in the Westlake/MacArthur Park areas of Los Angeles and you would realize you have no idea what you are talking about. Yes, these areas don't appear in glossy photos of the city's skyline but they are high density areas with heavy pedestrian traffic. They are not remotely suburban.

By some measures the LA metro area is the most dense in the country. LA does not follow the traditional northeastern urban model nor does it follow the traditional subelt suburban model. You have to think outside the box when thinking about or describing Los Angeles. Forget about comparing it to a boutique urban city like San Francisco or any of your northeastern "urban" examples.

Los Angeles is the Most Densely Populated Urban Area in the US - Facts & Figures - Curbed LA

[ProjectMersh]

Originally Posted by tspoon91

LA is too spread out to need to build vertically (even though LA has a top 10 skyline IMO

The vast majority of development in LA County is not occuring on the suburban edges. It is concentrated (vertically) in places like Hollywood, Downtown LA and numerous transit oriented development sites near light rail or subway stops. They may not be the ego statement skyscrapers you appear fond of but they are 4 to 8 story mixed-use buildings, with some 20 to 30 story residential projects in the most dense locations.

[tspoon91]

Originally Posted by ProjectMersh

You are way off base. Yes, compared to Manhattan just about anywhere in the USA looks suburban. But take a walk in Koreatown or down 6th Street in the Westlake/MacArthur Park areas of Los Angeles and you would realize you have no idea what you are talking about. Yes, these areas don't appear in glossy photos of the city's skyline but they are high density areas with heavy pedestrian traffic. They are not remotely suburban.

By some measures the LA metro area is the most dense in the country. LA does not follow the traditional northeastern urban model nor does it follow the traditional subelt suburban model. You have to think outside the box when thinking about or describing Los Angeles. Forget about comparing it to a boutique urban city like San Francisco or any of your northeastern "urban" examples.

Los Angeles is the Most Densely Populated Urban Area in the US - Facts & Figures - Curbed LA

I feel where youre coming from.. LA is an urban/suburban mix style city and considered urban compared to most American cities. SF and other NE cities were built very densely due to the number of people wanting to live in a specific vicinity while LA has a HUGE basin which is wide and pretty flat and a long coast of beaches so it didn't matter where you lived because you were near a beach.

[tspoon91]

Originally Posted by ProjectMersh

The vast majority of development in LA County is not occuring on the suburban edges. It is concentrated (vertically) in places like Hollywood, Downtown LA and numerous transit oriented development sites near light rail or subway stops. They may not be the ego statement skyscrapers you appear fond of but they are 4 to 8 story mixed-use buildings, with some 20 to 30 story residential projects in the most dense locations.

ive been quiet fond of skyscrapers since I was young and have always had a love for architect and "to build it bigger and better." theres something about driving across the bay bridge and seeing all those highrises or riding the 7 train in queens and seeing manhattans skyline from a distance. Its can put you in "awe."

here is some shots that are ok of SF

http://thingstodo.viator.com/san-fra...8628795673.jpg and

http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/12/26/05.../6/628x471.jpg

and
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8221/8...0ff31b5a_b.jpg

[L.A.-Mex]

Originally Posted by tspoon91

ive been quiet fond of skyscrapers since I was young and have always had a love for architect and "to build it bigger and better." theres something about driving across the bay bridge and seeing all those highrises or riding the 7 train in queens and seeing manhattans skyline from a distance. Its can put you in "awe."

here is some shots that are ok of SF

http://thingstodo.viator.com/san-fra...8628795673.jpg and

http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/12/26/05.../6/628x471.jpg

and
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8221/8...0ff31b5a_b.jpg

look at these 3 pages of photos, pay close attention to Ktown pics and then tell me that LA is suburban.
Los Angeles California - City Skyline Pictures, Cityscape Prints, Canvas, Metal, Panoramics, Murals, Digital Stock

[L.A.-Mex]

Originally Posted by tspoon91

It is somewhat of an ego thing because bigger is better in this case, only because the skyline is the face of a city. if ur city has a bold handsome skyline it gives a feeling of being more important and busy and higher energy level.. Los Angeles is suburban compared to NYC, SF, Philly or Boston. LA is an amazing city but it will always feel like a big TOWN instead of a bustling thriving city like SF. im in Wisconsin btw and we have no cities like SF or LA

on a metro area scale LA makes San Francisco, boston, philly, and to some extent nyc suburban

[tspoon91]

Originally Posted by L.A.-Mex

look at these 3 pages of photos, pay close attention to Ktown pics and then tell me that LA is suburban.
Los Angeles California - City Skyline Pictures, Cityscape Prints, Canvas, Metal, Panoramics, Murals, Digital Stock

LA has its urban areas and it is urban compared to most US cities, however when copared to SF it is suburban.. SF is more than twice as dense as LA.. google the population density and look at pictures of sf right here...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/188/4...74ace217_z.jpg and this

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4...mozfan/SF3.jpg

and this

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/73...8d763dc83e.jpg

[tspoon91]

Originally Posted by L.A.-Mex

on a metro area scale LA makes San Francisco, boston, philly, and to some extent nyc suburban

LA has the densest metro area because sf,phily,boston and nyc are concentrated in a specific area. besides SF bay area is #2 in metro density in the usa (behind LA respectively) and a lot of the sf suburbs are far from suburban. Oakland (without the rural hills) would be about 10,000 people per square mile.. Berkeley, Albany, san mateo etc have population density's above 10,000 and daly city has nearly 14,000 people per square mile.. it is by no means suburban to LA