Memories of the 1995 OJ Verdict Unrest (Brentwood: gated, shopping center, gardens)

[MordinSolus]

Originally Posted by BeatAngMoh

And Mike Brown did not need to be shot in the head.
...and it looks as if Mr. Brown was shot for being black.

No it doesn't. The physical evidence tells the story. You have to ignore all of the evidence and credible testimony to believe he got shot for being black. You also have to be racist yourself to come to that conclusion since there is literally no evidence that the officer was/is racist. Brown was a criminal who assaulted a police officer after robbing a store. It sounds to me like you think criminal behavior is fine as long as the perpetrators are black.

Originally Posted by BeatAngMoh

No wonder there is such rage. I could see fists of fury one day on whites when the next incident goes down. People like you help brew it.

Oh, the irony!

[BeatAngMoh]

Originally Posted by MordinSolus

No it doesn't. The physical evidence tells the story. You have to ignore all of the evidence and credible testimony to believe he got shot for being black. You also have to be racist yourself to come to that conclusion since there is literally no evidence that the officer was/is racist. Brown was a criminal who assaulted a police officer after robbing a store. It sounds to me like you think criminal behavior is fine as long as the perpetrators are black.



Oh, the irony!

OK if your son got shot in the head by 5-0 I guess its OK. Until you wear those shoes you are not qualified to comment.http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...vide/19636873/

[MordinSolus]

Originally Posted by BeatAngMoh

OK if your son got shot in the head by 5-0 I guess its OK. Until you wear those shoes you are not qualified to comment.Ferguson a defining moment for race relations in USA

The parents' grief is irrelevant. Just because their son got shot doesn't mean he didn't bring it on himself. Everyone has parents. Jeffrey Dahmer had parents. That doesn't mean you get to do whatever the hell you want without any consequences.

[BeatAngMoh]

Originally Posted by MordinSolus

The parents' grief is irrelevant. Just because their son got shot doesn't mean he didn't bring it on himself. Everyone has parents. Jeffrey Dahmer had parents. That doesn't mean you get to do whatever the hell you want without any consequences.

What we are talking about is not whether their son was a bad guy. It was clear he shoplifted and disobeyed the police. But the police could have shot him in the legs. What if 5-0 went to WeHo, didn't like you but caught you shoplifting a pair of pantyhose and decided to shoot you while you tussled with them on Santa Monica Blvd., your hood? One of these days your world will change given your callousness. As a minority you should be more sensitive.

[MordinSolus]

Originally Posted by BeatAngMoh

What we are talking about is not whether their son was a bad guy. It was clear he shoplifted and disobeyed the police. But the police could have shot him in the legs. What if 5-0 went to WeHo, didn't like you but caught you shoplifting a pair of pantyhose and decided to shoot you while you tussled with them on Santa Monica Blvd., your hood? One of these days your world will change given your callousness. As a minority you should be more sensitive.

I don't tussle with police. I don't assault police officers and grab for their guns. I don't shoplift and antagonize people. You know why I don't have much sympathy for Michael Brown? Because he got himself killed. Everything that happened was up to him. He made it all happen through bad decision after bad decision. There is a racial bias in the justice system that's working against blacks, which is a terrible and irrefutable thing. But until that problem is solved young black men have to be especially mindful of the system and how to avoid it. They don't get to stick their finger in it's eye and get away with it.
Could the officer had shot Brown in his legs? Sure. Is that what officers are trained to do? No, absolutely not. Brown was assaulting him and grabbing for his gun, which means Brown had deadly intent. After being shot several times Brown still wanted to assault the cop so he was met with deadly force. The cop did everything as he was trained. He did everything right.

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by BeatAngMoh

OK if your son got shot in the head by 5-0 I guess its OK. Until you wear those shoes you are not qualified to comment.Ferguson a defining moment for race relations in USA

of course everyone has a right to an opinion. The evidence was not worthy of a criminal indictment. It is never easy for a parent, how horrible for the family but when people commit crimes bad things can happen to them: Michael Brown committed a crime, more than one actually. As for thinking someone should have more sympathy because he is a minority himself is a pretty racist statement.

[jm1982]

The Brown family seems to want to continue this "batte for Justice" even though Officer Wilson has resigned from being a police officer. He didn't even have to do that.

Michael Brown family vow to fight on despite Darren Wilson's resignation | US news | The Guardian

“[Michael Brown’s] mother and father don’t think Officer Wilson had any consideration for their child and they wonder if he ever had a conscience,” said Crump. “We want police officers that do have a conscience in our community and not officers who are as cold as ice and see our children as demons and criminals.”

First off, 18 years old is a teenager, but not legally a child. Second, some of these 'children' ARE criminals!

These attorneys and other exploiting this case are disgusting . Personally I want officers to handle criminals like criminals.
Brown was a young man that didn't have respect for authority and simply thought he was above the law.

Amazing how people have twisted this story.

[bpeeps]

Originally Posted by MordinSolus

There is a racial bias in the justice system that's working against blacks, which is a terrible and irrefutable thing. But until that problem is solved young black men have to be especially mindful of the system and how to avoid it. They don't get to stick their finger in it's eye and get away with it.

It's easy to speak from privilege and say, hey don't do these things and stay away from the cops and you'll be fine. To an extent that is completely true, but to live it is entirely different experience.

The issue being as many people see it, excessive force on behalf of the cop would not have been used if he was white. He should have been arrested using the many other non-lethal methods they have to do so, tazers, bean bags, batons, etc. He should have been given due course like any other criminal. Just because he assaulted an officer, committed a crime, does NOT mean his death was warranted as you may be implying in your post.

It's great that you personally don't antagonize the police. Many black men don't, yet they still find themselves on the wrong side of police brutality. And because of that, is why people are taking a stand. It's another inciting incident for years and years of racial discrimination. That is why people are protesting, save for opportunistic looters and rioters. But whatever.

[jm1982]

bpeeps, I'm wondering how you know that "excessive force on behalf of the cop would not have been used if he was white."

Statements like this I feel shutdown the real conversation manytimes as they make the assumption that "the cop was white, of COURSE he was racist against blacks"

With this mindset ; that all white cops are 'out to get' anyone that looks black , there is no winning the argument.

Did anything come out about the Officer being in the KKK or causing harm to black people in the past?

There are situations where citizens of different ethnicities/races get involved in confrontations with different backgrounds all the time.

Is every single one of those situations where it doesn't 'turn out good' for the citizen a result of racism?..

Just because Rev Sharpton is on the tv talking about the issue doesn't mean it was actually a racial issue.

[MordinSolus]

Originally Posted by bpeeps

It's easy to speak from privilege and say, hey don't do these things and stay away from the cops and you'll be fine. To an extent that is completely true, but to live it is entirely different experience.

The issue being as many people see it, excessive force on behalf of the cop would not have been used if he was white. He should have been arrested using the many other non-lethal methods they have to do so, tazers, bean bags, batons, etc. He should have been given due course like any other criminal. Just because he assaulted an officer, committed a crime, does NOT mean his death was warranted as you may be implying in your post.

It's great that you personally don't antagonize the police. Many black men don't, yet they still find themselves on the wrong side of police brutality. And because of that, is why people are taking a stand. It's another inciting incident for years and years of racial discrimination. That is why people are protesting, save for opportunistic looters and rioters. But whatever.

Your entire argument is dependent on ignoring Michael Brown's actions and treating this case as another example of injustice toward the black community. I've already acknowledged that the justice system is unfair to blacks(especially black men) but this case has nothing to do with race. This cop is not George Zimmerman, he was protecting himself from a thug who was beating him and trying to take his service weapon. Explain to me how this is race related? I would get shot to death if I did what Brown did.