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Old 09-03-2016, 12:59 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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Wall Street journal 85?

Something is off..
True. WSJ has gone conservative since Murdoch took over and it wasn't liberal before then.

Went to the site that created the list:
SQs Explained

No explanation. I suspect a typo?

That said, WSJ is not as conservative as say the Washington Times. I'd place it somewhere in the range of U.S. News & World
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Old 09-03-2016, 01:03 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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Unfortunately the results are absurd. The WSJ as the most lbieral publication? Far more liberal than the Washington Post?

That is just absolutely absurd and must cause the whole study to be dismissed.
Dismissing the whole study / list is your business. The WSJ ranking is bad. But, any experienced observation of the overall balance of the list is likely to agree at least in general. That all said, the list is immaterial to my other observations about how journalism works.

Conservatives have equal opportunity. Funny they don't often exercise it within the bounds of ethical reporting.
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Old 09-03-2016, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Dismissing the whole study / list is your business. The WSJ ranking is bad. But, any experienced observation of the overall balance of the list is likely to agree at least in general. That all said, the list is immaterial to my other observations about how journalism works.

Conservatives have equal opportunity. Funny they don't often exercise it within the bounds of ethical reporting.
Drudge is very bad as well. Never saw a left leaner they would not slander.

The guy is a right wing thinktanker. He is simply using statistics to support a preset position. For some reason or the other he has absurd results he did not bother to fix. Left UCLA because he felt so isolated. Could not stand and debate with the left.

Completely unbelievable.
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Old 09-03-2016, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Ca expat loving Idaho
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I thought reporters and journalists are supposed to be unbiased and just report the facts. Silly nieve me...
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Old 09-03-2016, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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I thought reporters and journalists are supposed to be unbiased and just report the facts. Silly nieve me...
That is a separate issue. A news source can certainly lean left or right without being biased or failing to tell the truth. Which stories are reported and in what depth can display a bias. The degree to which they vet stories can also vary. They can tell the truth but not verify it very well. Let's them jump on stories they like without full confirmation that they are true.
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Old 09-03-2016, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Sylmar, a part of Los Angeles
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Not only is 9/10 of all media far left they have all of Hollywood and all of education from kindergarten on up. Schools are nothing but indoctrination centers to make lifetime reliable Democrat party voters.
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Old 09-03-2016, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Not only is 9/10 of all media far left they have all of Hollywood and all of education from kindergarten on up. Schools are nothing but indoctrination centers to make lifetime reliable Democrat party voters.
Interesting though that the target is the LA Times. Is everyone aware there is only one poll showing Trump consistly in front? Guess who?
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Old 09-03-2016, 05:17 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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Well, the metric is not whether any media is "right" or "left". It's whether they report verifiable truths or spread unverified rumors and myths.
True.
Where Wall Street Journal's Audience Fits on the Political Spectrum | Pew Research Center's Journalism Project
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Old 09-03-2016, 07:20 PM
 
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That is a separate issue. A news source can certainly lean left or right without being biased or failing to tell the truth. Which stories are reported and in what depth can display a bias. The degree to which they vet stories can also vary. They can tell the truth but not verify it very well. Let's them jump on stories they like without full confirmation that they are true.
Yep. For example, every negative on Trump will be front page, section A news everyday in the LA Slimes. Hillary does something work, it's buried with a brief paragraph in the back. That sort of coverage. ALso, LA SLimes has started to really opine even in its hard news part.

LA Slimes will have a front page story saying many Republicans fear Trump will destroy the party... etc, that may be true, some Republicans think that, but is that really front page news? Is that a fact? Sure it's a fact, but just because some elite DC Republicans don't like him, doesn't seem so relevant.

Meanwhile they won't discuss Trump bringing in disaffected voters who usually don't vote, in fact, widening the Republican party. That actually is more interesting.

Latest polls show Trump catching up or tying with Hillary, even in key battlegrounds. Their own poll shows Trump ahead. But Trump will have to be 5 points haead for the Slimes to even consider him even.
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Old 09-03-2016, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Yep. For example, every negative on Trump will be front page, section A news everyday in the LA Slimes. Hillary does something work, it's buried with a brief paragraph in the back. That sort of coverage. ALso, LA SLimes has started to really opine even in its hard news part.

LA Slimes will have a front page story saying many Republicans fear Trump will destroy the party... etc, that may be true, some Republicans think that, but is that really front page news? Is that a fact? Sure it's a fact, but just because some elite DC Republicans don't like him, doesn't seem so relevant.

Meanwhile they won't discuss Trump bringing in disaffected voters who usually don't vote, in fact, widening the Republican party. That actually is more interesting.

Latest polls show Trump catching up or tying with Hillary, even in key battlegrounds. Their own poll shows Trump ahead. But Trump will have to be 5 points haead for the Slimes to even consider him even.
Actually for the last month or two the only poll that shows Trump leading Clinton nas been the LA Times/USC. Now if they really were carrying a bias againar Trump you really think they could not fix that? Hell they simply stop publishing it and they drop Trump back 2 or 3 points.

So it appears the LA Times is giving Trump a fair break on the facts.
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