The Los Angeles Homeless Containment Thread (San Bernardino, Burbank: homosexual, violent crime, house)

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

But there is no evidence that homeless people commit 12.6% of assaults in LA, you are reading something into the data that just isn't there:



So in other words:

• Homeless people were listed as suspects in 12.6% of assaults, but there is no data to show how many of those crimes resulted in an arrest/conviction, or how many were classified as being 'unfounded'.
• The determination of whether or not the suspect was homeless was derived by the victim's description. We have no idea how the victim came to that conclusion, or how often they were correct
• There is no data regarding how many of the victims of assaults were also homeless.

Yes. Amazing how many times this has been repeated for Exitus, himself specifically, in response to his ad infinitum ad nauseam repetition of his favorite [false] 12.6% statistic. It’s as if he either can’t remember from one day to the next ... or is deliberately trolling this topic. Hard to know which.

Further, additionally to your bullet points above:

* it is also unknown how many of the *suspected* assaults, by *unverified* homeless may have been committed by the same *unverified* homeless person


* and the LAPD representative quoted in Exitus’ favorite article also advised that the inncrease in numbers of assaults did not reflect any actual increase since the last year’s statistics were compiled out of new reporting protocols not in place for previous years.


* also of note is the curious fact that, while homelessness has had a bit of an uptick this this year, the statistics referred to occurred in a year with a reduction in overall homelessness compared to years before that reported fewer assaults [with larger homeless populations]. Interesting eh?

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

Yes. Amazing how many times this has been repeated for Exitus, himself specifically, in response to his ad infinitum ad nauseam repetition of his favorite [false] 12.6% statistic. It’s as if he either can’t remember from one day to the next ... or is deliberately trolling this topic. Hard to know which.
Further, additionally to your bullet points above:
* it is also unknown how many of the *suspected* assaults, by *unverified* homeless may have been committed by the same *unverified* homeless person
* and the LAPD representative quoted in Exitus’ favorite article also advised that the inncrease in numbers of assaults did not reflect any actual increase since the last year’s statistics were compiled out of new reporting protocols not in place for previous years.
* also of note is the curious fact that, while homelessness has had a bit of an uptick this this year, the statistics referred to occurred in a year with a reduction in overall homelessness compared to years before that reported fewer assaults [with larger homeless populations]. Interesting eh?

All good points, and there's also the problem of transients and street thugs being referred to as "homeless", LASO has made a total mess of their stats by reporting every arrestee who refuses to give their home address as being "homeless".

[RationalExpectations]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

Heh. I recall that press conference ... I was there in the room running video.

That was you? I was there, too; I was the incredibly handsome guy to which Abe deferred.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by RationalExpectations

That was you? I was there, too; I was the incredibly handsome guy to which Abe deferred.

Oh right! The guy with pizza sauce on his shirt! Nice to cross paths again

[CA4Now]

I never knew that the settlement in 2007 was called the Jones agreement.

More than a decade ago, Los Angeles stopped putting people in jail for sleeping in the streets — a compromise laid out in a court settlement that halted police enforcement of laws barring encampments in public spaces until the city could build more housing for homeless people.

That 2007 settlement, commonly known as the Jones agreement, came the year after a ruling from the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals that found L.A.’s sweeps of homeless encampments on skid row were cruel and unusual punishment. Then last September, in a case from Boise, Idaho, the same court issued a similar ruling, saying that prosecuting people for sleeping on the sidewalk when there are not enough shelter beds or housing was unconstitutional.

The latter decision turned what was supposed to be a stopgap arrangement in L.A. into a sweeping and potentially open-ended curb on police powers in nine Western states, including in California...

https://www.latimes.com/local/califo...702-story.html

[Exitus Acta Probat]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

But there is no evidence that homeless people commit 12.6% of assaults in LA,

Seriously? Do I need to post the Adam-12 meme again?

[Exitus Acta Probat]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

Yes. Amazing how many times this has been repeated for Exitus, himself specifically, in response to his ad infinitum ad nauseam repetition of his favorite [false] 12.6% statistic.

No, as usual you'll argue against anything, even to the point of blaming the typhus outbreak on palm trees.

[Exitus Acta Probat]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

All good points, and there's also the problem of transients and street thugs being referred to as "homeless", LASO has made a total mess of their stats by reporting every arrestee who refuses to give their home address as being "homeless".

No, they're not. When you see a person looking like they live on the street, committing an aggravated assault, then you've witnessed a homeless person committing an aggravated assault. And think of all the assaults NOT reported to the police. In fact, I'd bet the homeless in the L.A. commit at least 20% of aggravated assaults.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

Seriously? Do I need to post the Adam-12 meme again?

no, please spare me I'm old enough to remember that show, it's still a painful memory

[Exitus Acta Probat]

BTW, did anybody else hear John and Ken today when they interviewed somebody about the wildlife preserve in Ventura or thereabouts? Unbelievable that these homeless scumbags are traipsing around on this preserve for endangered species and crushing bird eggs, draining water from areas and doing untold damage to the ecosystem, etc. These homeless people we have are so disgusting and inconsiderate, and they think nothing of any living things other than themselves. And how pathetic that we tolerate all this. Everywhere homeless people go, there also goes disease, destruction of personal property, destruction of ecosystems, etc. Disgusting.