LA areas - are they suburbs or neighborhoods?

[BRinSM]

well, torrance is a fairly large city and encompasses a wide area. There is a coastal portion of Torrance, a portion that stretches up into the hills of the Palos Verdes peninsula, as well as areas that border some very poor, crime ridden neighborhoods. all in all, torrance is cheaper than the other coastal south bay cities, but be mindful of the neighborhood you choose.

[matt345]

Originally Posted by drshang

I agree with uptown_urbanist on this subject. It's not a black/white type issue, but here's kind of how I'd describe it.

Once you reach a certain point away from DTLA people stop really considering LA city as part of their identity and daily life. They might tell their friends from Boston they live in LA, but they really don't go to LA much or associate it much with their day to day life. People will often say stuff like, "I hate LA" as a method of dissociating themselves from the city. Here is a diagram of how I'd describe it. Anything with the circle I'd consider to be "the city" in a lot of ways.

I will admit to now being that knowledgeable about the SFV so there may be some disagreements there. But considering that a lot of that area is part of LA city limits, it's hard to say it doesn't belong.

Nice map. I mostly agree, except I would cut out La Canada/Montrose and most of the SGV except for Pasadena. Maybe it's just my personal experience, but the people I've met from those areas are extremely disconnected from (and sometimes just downright clueless about) LA.

[LivingLikeAGradStudent]

When I tell people out of the area I live in Los Angeles, they assume I'm speaking of the general area. No, I live in the 4 million city of Los Angeles. I say I live in the Miracle Mile to locals.