05-07-2010, 11:20 AM
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How you drive on a LA freeway and not tailgate is beyond me (3 second rule..where?)
05-07-2010, 12:58 PM
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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its very easy. leave enough space between you and the car in front of you. isnt it 3 to 5 car lengths?
ive NEVER recieved a tailgating ticket, nor do i know anyone who has.
its best to lay back and not be in such a hurry. and watch when you change lanes. thats usually when you come closest to cars.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
werewolf34
How you drive on a LA freeway and not tailgate is beyond me (3 second rule..where?)
05-07-2010, 01:10 PM
Location: Los Angeles......So. Calif. an Island on the Land
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
werewolf34
How you drive on a LA freeway and not tailgate is beyond me (3 second rule..where?)
The fine is high for a reason. If you hit someone either you or they could get hurt. And the damage caused would certainly cost more than $212.
I once got a $300 ticket for temporarily parking in a handicapped space...I was escorting an elderly lady to her apartment. I paid the fine. I have a hard time feeling ANY sympathy for your situation.
05-07-2010, 01:13 PM
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I just got a $446 dollar from a traffic camera while making a right turn on red. Apparently I did not come to a complete stop even though I slowed to about 1MPH before turning @ 6 AM with nobody around. This is the biggest scam going, why would the fine be the same as going full speed through a red?
05-07-2010, 01:14 PM
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The 3 second rule at freeway speed is a lot more than 3-5 car lengths. Its actually 288' at 65mph which is 19 car lengths based on a typical 15' car. Should you actually attempt to leave 3 seconds between you and the car in front of you, several cars would instantly fill the gap. If you attempted to slow down enough to recreate that 3 second gap, you'd wind up going so slow that you'd get a ticket for obstructing the flow of traffic. Welcome to the broke state.
05-07-2010, 02:19 PM
Location: Declezville, CA
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OP, how fast were you going?
05-07-2010, 02:32 PM
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Tailgating is far far more dangerous than speeding. Frankly, it is extremely stupid. You do not get to where you are going any faster and if the car in front of you stops suddenly, you are in an accident. Even if the road is crowded, there is no reason to be on someones butt. You might even tailgate someone like me. I first tap my brakes so that my taillights go on. If this does not work, I start to slow down until you get the message. I really wish that police would enforce the law and write more tailgating tickets. Sorry, but this is something I feel very strongly about. You guys are a real menace and cause those 6 car pileups we read about. When you get into the habit of tailgating, you even do it in snowstorms or in fog so bad that visibility is almost zero. Stop doing it, that ticket may someday save your life or the life of your loved ones.
05-07-2010, 02:51 PM
Location: Mission Viejo, CA / San Rafael, CA
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You probably deserved it. Stop putting your car up another car's butt. Pay the fine.
05-07-2010, 03:14 PM
Location: West Hollywood
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I intentionally slow down and annoy the car behind me if it's tailgating me and there's no other lane to move to. I even turn on my rear fog lamps to hopefully blind the one behind me if it gets to close for a prolonged amount of time. I don't think what I'm doing is legal either, but it's all I can do if slowing down doesn't work and there's no where else to go.
05-07-2010, 04:04 PM
Location: Whittier
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
EscapeCalifornia
The 3 second rule at freeway speed is a lot more than 3-5 car lengths. Its actually 288' at 65mph which is 19 car lengths based on a typical 15' car. Should you actually attempt to leave 3 seconds between you and the car in front of you, several cars would instantly fill the gap. If you attempted to slow down enough to recreate that 3 second gap, you'd wind up going so slow that you'd get a ticket for obstructing the flow of traffic. Welcome to the broke state.
I don't think any reasonable person would disagree with you. However I don't think the OP is a victim of this situation.
I try to leave at least a couple of car lengths. There have been times where that buffer has really saved my bacon.
I've never tailgated, but always get tailgated; and I drive slightly above the speed limit too.
In these situations I'll maintain my speed or switch lanes. (I used to brake check, but the point is to AVOID a collision, right?)
In any case, to the OP, it is quite possible to NOT tailgate in L.A. And you shouldn't. It's amazing people who are inches away from another's bumper; who have amazing skills or faith that they can react in any situation.
I'm personally glad that this law exists. The intention of the government in this case isn't big brother saving me from myself, it's saving me from others.
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Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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