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Old 06-22-2023, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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The War of 1812 had a lot to to with Fort McHenry in Baltimore and the writing of the Star Spangled Banner there at that time. So it's kind of a big deal to MD.


Maybe stop being so judgmental and closed minded.
Oh please, personally I find history interesting, but most people could care less about it. Many people don't even know what the War of 1812 was all about, and they don't care. Yet they were forced to display that license plate on their cars anyway.

But I will play and evaluate the historical importance of the plate anyway. In 1976 more than half the states issues special edition Bicentennial license plates. Maryland was no exception. But Maryland's Bicentennial license plates were optional special interest plates that Maryland residents had to pay a premium to get. The standard issue Maryland plates that year were just a basic red on white design with just the name of the state and the characters. Paying for the premium plates got people the special Bicentennial license plates which turned the characters blue to create a red, white and blue design and added a small image of a cannon firing.

Point being, the Bicentennial of the country was not important enough to be represented on the majority of Maryland license plates. But the Bicentennial of the War of 1812 and the Star Spangled Banner was so earth shattering important that all Maryland residents had to have it noted on their license plates, unless they paid a premium for some other plate?

No that was not a historically import enough event to be forced on every registered motor vehicle owner in Maryland for so many years. A premium special interest plate, maybe. A standard issue plate, no way.

But as I said, it's more about public safety. That was a badly designed plate. The stacked characters would be hard to read from any distance. The purpose of a license plate should be to make identification of a car easy, not to be a glorified bumper sticker. If you feel so strongly about the War of 1812 and the Star Spangled Banner you should buy or make a bumper sticker for your car. But I suspect most people would not even consider getting a bumper sticker for that.
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Old 06-22-2023, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Cumberland
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Oh please, personally I find history interesting, but most people could care less about it. Many people don't even know what the War of 1812 was all about, and they don't care. Yet they were forced to display that license plate on their cars anyway.

But I will play and evaluate the historical importance of the plate anyway. In 1976 more than half the states issues special edition Bicentennial license plates. Maryland was no exception. But Maryland's Bicentennial license plates were optional special interest plates that Maryland residents had to pay a premium to get. The standard issue Maryland plates that year were just a basic red on white design with just the name of the state and the characters. Paying for the premium plates got people the special Bicentennial license plates which turned the characters blue to create a red, white and blue design and added a small image of a cannon firing.

Point being, the Bicentennial of the country was not important enough to be represented on the majority of Maryland license plates. But the Bicentennial of the War of 1812 and the Star Spangled Banner was so earth shattering important that all Maryland residents had to have it noted on their license plates, unless they paid a premium for some other plate?

No that was not a historically import enough event to be forced on every registered motor vehicle owner in Maryland for so many years. A premium special interest plate, maybe. A standard issue plate, no way.

But as I said, it's more about public safety. That was a badly designed plate. The stacked characters would be hard to read from any distance. The purpose of a license plate should be to make identification of a car easy, not to be a glorified bumper sticker. If you feel so strongly about the War of 1812 and the Star Spangled Banner you should buy or make a bumper sticker for your car. But I suspect most people would not even consider getting a bumper sticker for that.
Ft. McHenry surviving the British attack and the Star Spangled Banner being written by a Frederick, MD native are big points of pride and part of the history of our state. We honored that history. Car licensing is a right reserved for the States, not the Federal government. You don't live in our state.

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Old 06-22-2023, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Oh please, personally I find history interesting, but most people could care less about it. Many people don't even know what the War of 1812 was all about, and they don't care. Yet they were forced to display that license plate on their cars anyway.

But I will play and evaluate the historical importance of the plate anyway. In 1976 more than half the states issues special edition Bicentennial license plates. Maryland was no exception. But Maryland's Bicentennial license plates were optional special interest plates that Maryland residents had to pay a premium to get. The standard issue Maryland plates that year were just a basic red on white design with just the name of the state and the characters. Paying for the premium plates got people the special Bicentennial license plates which turned the characters blue to create a red, white and blue design and added a small image of a cannon firing.

Point being, the Bicentennial of the country was not important enough to be represented on the majority of Maryland license plates. But the Bicentennial of the War of 1812 and the Star Spangled Banner was so earth shattering important that all Maryland residents had to have it noted on their license plates, unless they paid a premium for some other plate?

No that was not a historically import enough event to be forced on every registered motor vehicle owner in Maryland for so many years. A premium special interest plate, maybe. A standard issue plate, no way.

But as I said, it's more about public safety. That was a badly designed plate. The stacked characters would be hard to read from any distance. The purpose of a license plate should be to make identification of a car easy, not to be a glorified bumper sticker. If you feel so strongly about the War of 1812 and the Star Spangled Banner you should buy or make a bumper sticker for your car. But I suspect most people would not even consider getting a bumper sticker for that.

So you're NOT going to stop being judgmental and closed minded.Why are people like you proud to be that way?
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Old 06-22-2023, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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So you're NOT going to stop being judgmental and closed minded.Why are people like you proud to be that way?
I think you should look in the mirror.
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Old 06-22-2023, 01:39 PM
 
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This is why vanity license plates should just go away. Everywhere else in the world, license plates have one purpose and one purpose only. To easily and clearly identify the motor vehicle displaying the plate. But for some reason in the US, they have become nothing more than glorified bumper stickers.

Wide format European style license plates should be adopted everywhere. Every plate should have random black on yellow numbers on the rear, black on white numbers on the front, with a state seal on each plate to identify what state the vehicle is registered in. No exceptions for anyone. Problem solved.
In Europe you can also get vanity tags......

In California you don't even need a plate on a new car for 6 months (Steve Jobs was famous for swapping new cars every 6 months to avoid a license plate).
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Old 06-22-2023, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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In Europe you can also get vanity tags......

In California you don't even need a plate on a new car for 6 months (Steve Jobs was famous for swapping new cars every 6 months to avoid a license plate).
I don't believe Europeans can do that. At best they can pay a fee to select what plate number they want. But the plates are all standard. Euroband to indicate the country, government seal, large black numbers and letters, and that is all. Which is a good thing. Hit and run drivers will not get a way in Europe, and no Philippines gambling website will ever find its way onto European license plates.

This is a problem that shouldn't and doesn't have to exist.
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Old 06-22-2023, 02:48 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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I don't believe Europeans can do that. At best they can pay a fee to select what plate number they want. But the plates are all standard. Euroband to indicate the country, government seal, large black numbers and letters, and that is all. Which is a good thing. Hit and run drivers will not get a way in Europe, and no Philippines gambling website will ever find its way onto European license plates.

This is a problem that shouldn't and doesn't have to exist.
What you're advocating is federalizing vehicle registration.
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Old 06-22-2023, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Cumberland
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What you're advocating is federalizing vehicle registration.
Glad somebody understands "the quiet part" and no thank you, we'll keep our vanity tag and voters in Oregon can implement Eurostyle plates if these wish.

There is no problem.
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Old 06-22-2023, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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What you're advocating is federalizing vehicle registration.
No just regulating it. Which is already done any way. As others have already pointed out the size of license plates are already regulated by the federal government. So nothing would change in that regard.

States would still issues license plates but the plates would be wider and have nothing but large easy to read black numbers and letters on them. Which would fulfill the purpose of a license plate, and not cause problems like this.
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Old 06-22-2023, 04:10 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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No just regulating it. Which is already done any way. As others have already pointed out the size of license plates are already regulated by the federal government. So nothing would change in that regard.

States would still issues license plates but the plates would be wider and have nothing but large easy to read black numbers and letters on them. Which would fulfill the purpose of a license plate, and not cause problems like this.
What problem? Damn near every state has some tag line on its plate. Pennsylvania has had a website address for years.

And the Maryland issue wouldn't have been one if someone wasn't asleep at the switch.
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