My 2019 Thanksgiving in Massachusetts: I'am surprised the turkey did not stand up and say 'i want to move too' (Boston: university, place to live)

[brightdoglover]

Originally Posted by timberline742

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Oh. I see you quoted a tv watching kid. I guess some people really do get their information from the screen. Pretty pathetic and sad. They should get out of the house sometime if they can muster the courage.

I grew up in south Jersey until age 20. The suburbs are pretty much all over south Jersey except for protected areas. Dunno about politics but it's definitely an exurb of Philadelphia. Yeah, flat, a huge sand bar (the top of the ancient Pococos). Everything suburban is less working-class than it ever was.

[CaseyB]

Originally Posted by GeoffD

Again, you are talking about your circumstances in Hopkinton. You picked the baby factory town with minimal commercial real estate, not me. My mill rate is $9.93. I have no problem getting trade people to do work at reasonable prices. I used to live in Portsmouth NH. I did the retirement math and bailed out to the Massachusetts South Coast. I can walk to the beach. I can walk to the dinghy dock. My housing price per square foot is half of Portsmouth. The property taxes are 1/4 what I was paying in Portsmouth. When I start collecting Social Security, it won’t be taxed.

Of course, I also used to own a house in Winchester. Trade people would drive up my driveway and double their prices.

There hasn't been any factories in Hopkinton for many years. It's woodsy.

[brightdoglover]

Originally Posted by CaseyB

There hasn't been any factories in Hopkinton for many years. It's woodsy.

Uh, I think the poster was referring to families with more kids/babies.

[CaseyB]

Originally Posted by brightdoglover

Uh, I think the poster was referring to families with more kids/babies.

You are right. I thought factories were mentioned in another post about the town.

[massnative71]

Originally Posted by Atomicdoug

I was limited by my work (Westborough) and the desire to have a less than 20 min. commute. The choices were Westborough, Northborough, Southborough, Marlboro, Hopkinton, Ashland or Milford. Maybe Holliston. None of the "boro" towns are any cheaper than Hopkinton, Ashland is less expensive but not nearly as nice, Holliston is nice but another 10-15 min farther away.

I was fortunate that my commute was to Westborough, which could be driven with no traffic lights. But East-West traffic in Hopkinton is awful. It backs up for ~ 2 miles in the morning go east and the same in the afternoons going west.

I guess you could argue that Rt 9 is an East-West highway, but given the number of traffic lights, it will be no faster than local roads. I've had to commute to Waltham a few times, it can take 1 hr 15 min to go 19 miles. That's awful.

I don't think they will be widening roads here... it is expensive and the locals will fight it.

Northborough is probably cheaper than Hopkinton, and Marlboro most definitely is. Both in terms of home prices and taxes. I actually think Hopkinton is being treated a little rough on this thread. I get that it's not right for you which is the point people here are trying to get across, but lets not forget that it's expensive and in demand for a reason. For some, it offers a package (and access) that's hard to beat.

[jayrandom]

Originally Posted by CaseyB

You are right. I thought factories were mentioned in another post about the town.

The earlier poster called it a baby factory town, which I could see being confused for a baby factory town.

[redplum33]

Originally Posted by timberline742

i don't know about the politics, but it has some stellar herp fauna. a group i am a member of has done two of their national meetings there over the last couple of decades. its nice, and a lot easier for me to get to than say, snake road.

fsu??

[timberline742]

Originally Posted by brightdoglover

I grew up in south Jersey until age 20. The suburbs are pretty much all over south Jersey except for protected areas. Dunno about politics but it's definitely an exurb of Philadelphia. Yeah, flat, a huge sand bar (the top of the ancient Pococos). Everything suburban is less working-class than it ever was.

Yeah, I know. Every time I pass through, its more and more like that. Thankfully there are some good orgs that do protect the native habitat there. I hope to participate in a burn there sometime.

[AtkinsonDan]

Originally Posted by massnative71

Northborough is probably cheaper than Hopkinton, and Marlboro most definitely is. Both in terms of home prices and taxes. I actually think Hopkinton is being treated a little rough on this thread. I get that it's not right for you which is the point people here are trying to get across, but lets not forget that it's expensive and in demand for a reason. For some, it offers a package (and access) that's hard to beat.

In a nutshell I'd say Hopkinton is a little more stepfordian than the ...boro towns.

[BosYuppie]

Originally Posted by CaseyB

There hasn't been any factories in Hopkinton for many years. It's woodsy.

Hipkington still has a major (white collar) Dell campus, at least for now. The old EMC lines of business might continue to struggle as the big clouds take over most of the server farm business (or maybe they will sell directly to the big three cloud providers who knows)