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Old 09-13-2021, 10:53 AM
 
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I'm not just talking about deaths, but "severe complications" that could be either immediate or lapsed. I consider any disabling effects to be severe. 1:3 is probably high, but I've heard anywhere from 1:10 to 1:2 of confirmed cases.
If you believe the CDC where maybe 1/4 of infections are actually tested, I think 1:100 for complications beyond losing your taste and feeling lousy for a few weeks is probably in the right ballpark. Of course, it’s age & health dependent plus a bit of genetic lottery. A teen has much better odds. Someone with a Medicare card has much worse odds. I haven’t seen enough good data on Delta to say if that variant is closer to your approximation. 1:10 for cases that tested positive is 1:40 if only 1/4 of infected get tested when a nasal swab will show positive. I can believe your 1:10 for Delta for unvaccinated people.
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Old 09-13-2021, 10:57 AM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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From the Christian Science Monitor:


What a fruit loop!
You can't believe that liberal rag
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Old 09-13-2021, 11:06 AM
 
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If you believe the CDC where maybe 1/4 of infections are actually tested, I think 1:100 for complications beyond losing your taste and feeling lousy for a few weeks is probably in the right ballpark. Of course, it’s age & health dependent plus a bit of genetic lottery. A teen has much better odds. Someone with a Medicare card has much worse odds. I haven’t seen enough good data on Delta to say if that variant is closer to your approximation. 1:10 for cases that tested positive is 1:40 if only 1/4 of infected get tested when a nasal swab will show positive. I can believe your 1:10 for Delta for unvaccinated people.
I do not understand how that is possible given that the current death rate is approximately 1.4% (of confirmed cases) among the entire population (both vaccinated and unvaccinated). The death rate among unvaccinated persons will obviously be higher. They say maybe 10-20X that number will experience severe/long term complications of some sort. That is way above 1:100, even if you estimate that only 1/4 of actual positive cases are accounted for.
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Old 09-13-2021, 11:10 AM
 
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What a fruit loop!
the republic broadcasting network is not a extremist radio channel. It good old fashion conservatism. It's similar to.newsmax. maybe some of the callers might go too far. This forum is somewhat to the left of Joseph Stalin.
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Old 09-13-2021, 12:16 PM
 
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the republic broadcasting network is not a extremist radio channel. It good old fashion conservatism. It's similar to.newsmax. maybe some of the callers might go too far. This forum is somewhat to the left of Joseph Stalin.
So old fashioned conservatism is conspiracy theories and pseudoscience? That’s certainly an appropriate description of Newsmax. And your Stalin reference shows you have no knowledge of history. Most on this forum lean a bit European social Democrat. In Europe, that’s a conservative.
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Old 09-13-2021, 12:56 PM
 
Location: New England
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Eisenhower's been gone a long time.
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Old 09-13-2021, 12:58 PM
 
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Geez national guard had to be activated due to bus driver shortages:

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2021/09/...iver-shortage/
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Old 09-13-2021, 02:48 PM
 
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Geez national guard had to be activated due to bus driver shortages:

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2021/09/...iver-shortage/
Ridiculous! This is what you use the Nat Guard for?
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Old 09-13-2021, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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It's not a shock that people aren't beating down the door for a split shift part time job working early mornings and the afternoon.
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Old 09-13-2021, 03:19 PM
 
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I agree it does seem ridiculous. I know kids need to get to school but seems crazy there wasn't anything else that could be done. Getting bus drivers didn't seem to be an issue in the past but if this is going to become a thing school systems will be in trouble. It isn't sustainable to use the national guard for something like this. My kids take the bus so I guess getting drivers wasn't an issue here. If it was I'd be happy to drive them myself and pick them up.
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