RINO King Charlie Approves vote by mail; Yahoo We Can Now Conduct Wide Spread Voter Fraud (Taunton: buying, dangerous)

[massnative71]

Originally Posted by timberline742

If the right wingers are against mail in voting, then they surely must be against the military using mail in voting.


Are they? We know the answer to that.

Apples and oranges bro.

[massnative71]

Originally Posted by OutdoorLover

Yep. The reality is that most elections are pretty close. So if you can affect voter turnout by even a seemingly modest amount, that can easily be the margin of victory. Every citizen has the right to vote, and making the process more difficult, will be enough to deter many from voting, and will in turn impact the voting rate, and can affect the election outcome.

Republican politicos have a distinct bias towards making it more difficult for college students and city-dwellers to vote. It's not an accident that those that they try to discourage from voting, tend to vote Democrat.

I get it.


Most elections are close, yet small amounts of voter fraud are not a playing factor.


Voter fraud is fake news, yet voter suppression is a fact.



Voter suppression tips elections, yet voter fraud doesn't.



No bias whatsoever.

[bolehboleh]

Help me to understand something.

Is Baker a RINO because of his policies in general or because (in this case) he went against the GOP platform to do what he thought was right.

[Shrewsburried]

Originally Posted by bolehboleh

Help me to understand something.

Is Baker a RINO because of his policies in general or because (in this case) he went against the GOP platform to do what he thought was right.

He doesn't coarsely "say it like it is", or own a red (or white) hat.

[mp775]

Originally Posted by massnative71

Just there, was something like over 100 dead people voting (maybe even hundred"s" I forget now). Here is an example from Maryland.

That article cites two dead person votes in five years. Being on the rolls isn't the same as casting a fraudulent vote.

[massnative71]

Originally Posted by mp775

Being on the rolls isn't the same as casting a fraudulent vote.

But with vote by mail, the potential is much higher. And in cities where it's an actual problem ie. Somerville, what were 100 dead voting could now turn into 500 (and so on). That could easily tip an election.



Overseas military personnel is an entirely different story, much harder to commit fraud in that case.

[bostongymjunkie]

Originally Posted by massnative71

But with vote by mail, the potential is much higher. And in cities where it's an actual problem ie. Somerville, what were 100 dead voting could now turn into 500 (and so on). That could easily tip an election.



Overseas military personnel is an entirely different story, much harder to commit fraud in that case.

As James Michael Curley was known to say "Voter early and often."


Criminal minds will take advantage of ANY easy opportunity to steal and cheat. Anybody who thinks that mail-in voting does not have the potential to be manipulated is either a naive fool or a partisan tool. Same goes for not needing to show an ID at the polls. So easy to cheat it's almost irresistible to the right parties and no legitimate reason in this day and age to enable it. You have to be either blinded by your ideology or just plain dumb to think it can't happen in pockets and pockets can tip an election.


https://nypost.com/2020/08/29/politi...il-in-ballots/

[htfdcolt]

Originally Posted by bostongymjunkie

As James Michael Curley was known to say "Voter early and often."


Criminal minds will take advantage of ANY easy opportunity to steal and cheat. Anybody who thinks that mail-in voting does not have the potential to be manipulated is either a naive fool or a partisan tool. Same goes for not needing to show an ID at the polls. So easy to cheat it's almost irresistible to the right parties and no legitimate reason in this day and age to enable it. You have to be either blinded by your ideology or just plain dumb to think it can't happen in pockets and pockets can tip an election.


https://nypost.com/2020/08/29/politi...il-in-ballots/

There is a big difference between saying *potential* to be fraudulent vs. declaring *rigged* with zero evidence. It's more irresponsible to state the latter without proof.

[bostongymjunkie]

Originally Posted by htfdcolt

There is a big difference between saying *potential* to be fraudulent vs. declaring *rigged* with zero evidence. It's more irresponsible to state the latter without proof.

If you're goal is to have a discussion on all the irresponsible or dumb things you think elected officials "say" you could start a thread on that topic and, if legitimate, it would involve numerous people in both parties as well as Presidents past and present. But I don't think those bigger conversations about what lots of people SAY really interest you. I'm more interested in what people actually do.


What's this guy trying to say now?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA8a2g6tTp0

[timberline742]

LOL, I'm far more worried about the military voting fraud. There is an org that knows how to conduct large scale fraud well.


Not little towns. Almost everyone of the rare cases of "dead people" voting has been live people voting then dying before the election. That it was caught shows you how secure the safeguards are.


Know people in the military (my father's family was all military, and many went into the defense industry). They have systemic fraud down... get off line with some of the MITRE, Raytheon, Draper or even worse, that criminal org Bath Iron Works / General Dynamics (not easy to do as most take their security clearances pretty strongly), but hooooollly hell, you'll be regaled with tales on how the military works fraud efficiently.