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Old 09-16-2020, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Columbia SC
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The "Lee Atwater" school of campaign strategy, no doubt.
A Good Ole Southern Boy:

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Deathbed_conversion
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Old 09-16-2020, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Woburn, MA / W. Hartford, CT
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Well, I'll be! He's a SC native...which is where you happen to be?
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Old 09-16-2020, 06:03 PM
 
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Here in SC, Republican controlled, the Election Commission voted to buy 60 mail ballot drop off boxes. No need to mail a requested ballot in. Just drop it in any ballot box. The Republican legislators killed that idea fast.

Let me ask: What was wrong with that idea?
Interesting. Where would these 60 boxes have been placed? Were their measures in place to ensure their integrity, or was it pretty much a free-for-all similar to mail ins?
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Old 09-17-2020, 05:10 AM
 
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Trump didn't mean what he said. He never does, according to the "grab em by their p*ssy" cheerleaders.
Really Well that grap em by their p*ssy as you call him just brokered an historic Middle East peace deal. I wonder if dementia Joe(AKA the sniffer) could have accomplished the same!

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Old 09-17-2020, 05:13 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts & Hilton Head, SC
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Please keep the conversation to local matters.
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Old 09-17-2020, 06:34 AM
 
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Interesting. Where would these 60 boxes have been placed? Were their measures in place to ensure their integrity, or was it pretty much a free-for-all similar to mail ins?
It's not a "free for all", at least not in MA.

My wife works the voting station for our town and ... rest assured ... if someone intentionally or unintentionally votes via mail-in and in person, it will be identified during ballot inventory and the mail-in vote destroyed. I suppose it's possible for someone to have multiple voter addresses across multiple states, but research on this possible channel of fraud has shown the small number of people who are registered in multiple districts are rarely even aware of it or act upon it.

I.e., the fakest news.

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Old 09-17-2020, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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What is funny is how the Republicans don't want mass mail in voting but the Democrats do... I wonder if it was shown that mass mail in voting was going to benefit Trump how hard would the Left be pushing for it?



Absentee voting is one thing but mailing in hundreds of thousands of ballots is another that is ripe for corruption, fraud and deceit. All it takes is one mail carrier to conveniently hold the ballot for anyone on her route that has a Trump sign in their yard or maybe that resident gets mail from the NRA or some other Right Leaning organization that the mail carrier does not approve of. Of course this can work the other way too but time and again the Left has shown that they are willing to stoop low to silence someone that does not agree with them. I have seen Trump signs stolen and vandalized while the Democrat ones remain untouched. A friend had his Trump flag stolen off his boat.



Elections can be close and if even a few hundred are lost, misplaced or suddenly "found" they can sway and election.



There is just too much that can go wrong with mailing in votes. If we can mask up and line up to enter a grocery store then we can do the same to perform our civic duty.
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Old 09-17-2020, 07:24 AM
 
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What is funny is how the Republicans don't want mass mail in voting but the Democrats do... I wonder if it was shown that mass mail in voting was going to benefit Trump how hard would the Left be pushing for it?



Absentee voting is one thing but mailing in hundreds of thousands of ballots is another that is ripe for corruption, fraud and deceit. All it takes is one mail carrier to conveniently hold the ballot for anyone on her route that has a Trump sign in their yard or maybe that resident gets mail from the NRA or some other Right Leaning organization that the mail carrier does not approve of. Of course this can work the other way too but time and again the Left has shown that they are willing to stoop low to silence someone that does not agree with them. I have seen Trump signs stolen and vandalized while the Democrat ones remain untouched. A friend had his Trump flag stolen off his boat.



Elections can be close and if even a few hundred are lost, misplaced or suddenly "found" they can sway and election.



There is just too much that can go wrong with mailing in votes. If we can mask up and line up to enter a grocery store then we can do the same to perform our civic duty.
Stop promoting right-wing conspiracies.

GOP is against mass mail-in ballots because it increases overall turnout (in theory) ... which is a bad thing when your party has a shrinking base and reliant on an electoral advantage. It's a simple as that. Actual incidents of fraud are incredibly small and, according to the public data collected, not committed by a single party.

Again ... the fakest news.
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Old 09-17-2020, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Woburn, MA / W. Hartford, CT
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There is just too much that can go wrong with mailing in votes. If we can mask up and line up to enter a grocery store then we can do the same to perform our civic duty.
Again...As I pointed out earlier, who are you to overrule people's very legitimate concerns about going to an indoor polling place, potentially having to wait in line, when there is a safe alternative available?

Also..."much that can go wrong", please cite statistics, not possibilities. 5 states have been doing this for years, with minimal fraud. Plus--we send out paychecks, SS checks, tax refunds all by mail...wouldn't that be MORE subject to fraud because of the $ incentives?
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Old 09-17-2020, 08:55 AM
 
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Also..."much that can go wrong", please cite statistics, not possibilities. 5 states have been doing this for years, with minimal fraud. Plus--we send out paychecks, SS checks, tax refunds all by mail...wouldn't that be MORE subject to fraud because of the $ incentives?
Except fraud there would likely require obtaining a fake ID, among things. Bad analogy.
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