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Old 03-28-2021, 08:35 PM
 
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Police in the US is trained to kill. That's the biggest reason why the rate of police killing is so high compared to other countries even when you factor in the higher murder rate.
So.. maybe let's retrain and we have less killing of blacks and whites regardless of the fact they are (or not) criminals.

 
Old 03-29-2021, 03:30 AM
 
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Police in the US is trained to kill. That's the biggest reason why the rate of police killing is so high compared to other countries even when you factor in the higher murder rate.
So.. maybe let's retrain and we have less killing of blacks and whites regardless of the fact they are (or not) criminals.
Definitely the rules of engagement are different than in other nations and different than they used to be here. In other nations, it's to use the minimum level of force needed to accomplish the goal, while in the US, it's to minimize risk to the police officers - when there is any question, use heavy force, including deadly force.
 
Old 03-29-2021, 04:33 AM
 
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Police in the US is trained to kill. That's the biggest reason why the rate of police killing is so high compared to other countries even when you factor in the higher murder rate.
So.. maybe let's retrain and we have less killing of blacks and whites regardless of the fact they are (or not) criminals.
Someone needs to train you, because this is absolutely not true.
 
Old 03-29-2021, 04:36 AM
 
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Definitely the rules of engagement are different than in other nations and different than they used to be here. In other nations, it's to use the minimum level of force needed to accomplish the goal, while in the US, it's to minimize risk to the police officers - when there is any question, use heavy force, including deadly force.
Keep your day job. You're out of your league.
 
Old 03-29-2021, 05:14 AM
 
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Police in the US is trained to kill. That's the biggest reason why the rate of police killing is so high compared to other countries even when you factor in the higher murder rate.
So.. maybe let's retrain and we have less killing of blacks and whites regardless of the fact they are (or not) criminals.
I'm sure it has nothing at all to do with the prevalence of armed criminals here in the US, and all to do with those trigger happy p$#s.
 
Old 03-29-2021, 05:36 AM
 
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I am sure they had this guys past available to them as the chase went on for a while. They could see he was a career criminal who had shot an 8 year old then got out of the cruiser holding a rifle. That's basically suicide by cop. Dude had it coming to him.
 
Old 03-29-2021, 06:38 AM
 
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I am sure they had this guys past available to them as the chase went on for a while. They could see he was a career criminal who had shot an 8 year old then got out of the cruiser holding a rifle. That's basically suicide by cop. Dude had it coming to him.
So you can recognize this, yet you are still willing to toss out white grievance politics as though this incident is somehow comparable to Floyd, the most notable BLM protest to date.

I'll be the first to admit some of the notable BLM protests of the past are highly problematic (e.g., Brown/Ferguson), but this example of imagined outrage is rather odd hill to die on given Leach's actions.
 
Old 03-29-2021, 08:52 AM
 
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I'm sure it has nothing at all to do with the prevalence of armed criminals here in the US, and all to do with those trigger happy p$#s.
You think criminals that commit violent crimes abroad only use their fists? lol, come on.
Mexico has a rate of police killings comparable to that of the US.
 
Old 03-29-2021, 08:55 AM
 
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Someone needs to train you, because this is absolutely not true.
As always you talk without ever providing any sort of data
you can find some data here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ers_by_country

I am waiting for the more accurate set of data you are using.
 
Old 03-29-2021, 09:09 AM
 
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You think criminals that commit violent crimes abroad only use their fists? lol, come on.
Mexico has a rate of police killings comparable to that of the US.
I'm not sure what your point is. Countries with a high rate of armed criminals will have a higher rate of police killings than countries with a low rate of violent crime and illegal guns floating around. Your cite is consistent with that. You put a US police department in Switzerland, they aren't going to be discharging their firearm a whole lot. You put a Swiss cop on the streets of Rio, let's just say he's going to have to adjust his standard operating procedures from what he's used to at home.
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