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Old 09-16-2022, 08:16 AM
 
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The kids of these migrants have ruined universities here as well. They have overtaken scholarships, have to let them in based on a, b, c to fill our quotas.
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Old 09-16-2022, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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What I do not understand is how Sanctuary states/cities/towns seem to be overwhelmed by a couple of bus/plane loads of illegal aliens "migrants" with some seeking aide from the Feds and others talking about activating the National Guard?



Over the last 2 days we have seen and heard it all over the news how 50 "migrants" were dropped off on MV BUT we don't ever hear anything on the news about the 5000 "migrants" that crossed the Border last night ?



We haven't heard much about migrant caravans lately, probably because it is not a good image and doesn't poll well, but they are still coming. I think the majority of cities and towns would be overwhelmed if 1000- 10,000 people walked down Main street, stopped and needed everything from food, shelter, clothes, healthcare and education.

How could a city handle that let alone a town?

How can America handle this influx when we have so many people living on the streets?



How can we keep this up?



50 migrants on MV is a drop in the bucket.
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Old 09-16-2022, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Central Mass
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More probably came here in a legal gray space with none of those things. Not even health. The ancestors' argument is a bad one given how lax everything was back in the Ellis Island Days. The whole country was founded on people who just decided to come here.

Obviously we want employable healthy people but the throwback to the ancestors seems a little unfair. The bar is much higher now for legal immigration.
when my ancestors came here, they didn't need to do anything.
The Naturalization Act of 1790 basically said if you were white, you were welcome to become Americans. Not that you couldn't come here, but after two years of residency "free white persons of good character" could file a petition for naturalization.
The Naturalization Act of 1870 added "aliens of African nativity and to persons of African descent".
You've also got the Page Act of 1875 that was the first restrictive immigration law - prohibiting the entry of Chinese women...
There's the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882 that prohibited ALL chinese laborers from immigrating until 1892
The next big one was the Immigration Act of 1917 - that barred immigration from all of Asia-Pacific (that we didn't own) and added a literacy test.

So if you are keeping score, our borders were open from 1783 to 1875. If you were black, our borders were open from 1870 to 1917.
If you left Europe, our borders were open from 1783 until 1917. If you were white and could read and write, our borders were open until 1924.

In the 1924 Immigration Act, it set quotas for the first time. For example, in 1925, 31% of immigrants could come from Germany and 3.77% from Italy. 98.1% of immigrants could be from Europe. 1300 total were allowed from Asia and 1200 total from Africa. we allowed 2081 Swiss immigrants in 1925.

So, no, Most of our ancestors did not have any requirements to come here. All my ancestors moved to the US before 1917 so there were zero restrictions to citizenship for white people as long as they tested for good character at their naturalization hearing!
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Old 09-16-2022, 08:29 AM
 
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Some of the Texas border towns see 50 dropped off every 10 minutes.
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Old 09-16-2022, 08:29 AM
 
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50 people is a drop in the bucket but we all know there's much more coming in
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Old 09-16-2022, 08:30 AM
 
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when my ancestors came here, they didn't need to do anything.
The Naturalization Act of 1790 basically said if you were white, you were welcome to become Americans. Not that you couldn't come here, but after two years of residency "free white persons of good character" could file a petition for naturalization.
The Naturalization Act of 1870 added "aliens of African nativity and to persons of African descent".
You've also got the Page Act of 1875 that was the first restrictive immigration law - prohibiting the entry of Chinese women...
There's the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882 that prohibited ALL chinese laborers from immigrating until 1892
The next big one was the Immigration Act of 1917 - that barred immigration from all of Asia-Pacific (that we didn't own) and added a literacy test.

So if you are keeping score, our borders were open from 1783 to 1875. If you were black, our borders were open from 1870 to 1917.
If you left Europe, our borders were open from 1783 until 1917. If you were white and could read and write, our borders were open until 1924.

In the 1924 Immigration Act, it set quotas for the first time. For example, in 1925, 31% of immigrants could come from Germany and 3.77% from Italy. 98.1% of immigrants could be from Europe. 1300 total were allowed from Asia and 1200 total from Africa. we allowed 2081 Swiss immigrants in 1925.

So, no, Most of our ancestors did not have any requirements to come here. All my ancestors moved to the US before 1917 so there were zero restrictions to citizenship for white people as long as they tested for good character at their naturalization hearing!
Things were different back then! No one thought about population control, crowded schools and hospitals the way they are today.

wake up!!
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Old 09-16-2022, 08:45 AM
 
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More probably came here in a legal gray space with none of those things. Not even health. The ancestors' argument is a bad one given how lax everything was back in the Ellis Island Days. The whole country was founded on people who just decided to come here.

Obviously we want employable healthy people but the throwback to the ancestors seems a little unfair. The bar is much higher now for legal immigration.
Homie, you're conveniently omitting the fact that those who came here back in the Ellis Island days did not get to play the "asylum jefe, asylum!" trick and get a comfortable taxpayer-provided cradle to grave safety hammock.
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Old 09-16-2022, 08:49 AM
 
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when my ancestors came here, they didn't need to do anything.
The Naturalization Act of 1790 basically said if you were white, you were welcome to become Americans. Not that you couldn't come here, but after two years of residency "free white persons of good character" could file a petition for naturalization.
The Naturalization Act of 1870 added "aliens of African nativity and to persons of African descent".
You've also got the Page Act of 1875 that was the first restrictive immigration law - prohibiting the entry of Chinese women...
There's the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882 that prohibited ALL chinese laborers from immigrating until 1892
The next big one was the Immigration Act of 1917 - that barred immigration from all of Asia-Pacific (that we didn't own) and added a literacy test.

So if you are keeping score, our borders were open from 1783 to 1875. If you were black, our borders were open from 1870 to 1917.
If you left Europe, our borders were open from 1783 until 1917. If you were white and could read and write, our borders were open until 1924.

In the 1924 Immigration Act, it set quotas for the first time. For example, in 1925, 31% of immigrants could come from Germany and 3.77% from Italy. 98.1% of immigrants could be from Europe. 1300 total were allowed from Asia and 1200 total from Africa. we allowed 2081 Swiss immigrants in 1925.

So, no, Most of our ancestors did not have any requirements to come here. All my ancestors moved to the US before 1917 so there were zero restrictions to citizenship for white people as long as they tested for good character at their naturalization hearing!
Borders were indeed open but you needed to work for everything, there wasn't a centered green new equitable equity immigration justice welcome committee waiting for you with open arms and boatloads of taxpayer dollars.
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Old 09-16-2022, 08:58 AM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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Things were different back then! No one thought about population control, crowded schools and hospitals the way they are today.

wake up!!
Population control was very much on the minds of the people back then. There were giant government sanctioned/implemented programs to systemically control populations. Select populations.
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Old 09-16-2022, 09:15 AM
 
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someone close to me was actually just sent down to Otis to work with these people today.
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