Mass migration: People continue to leave the state (Boston, Worcester: city hall, houses)

[msRB311]

There's layoffs happening in the financial industry too...not sure how bringing people into the office will change that. State Street laid off 1500 people a few weeks ago

[BostonMike7]

I get unsolicited emails from recruiters all the times with resumes attached. I've gotten a ton of engineering resumes forwarded to me in the last 3-4 weeks for folks who have recently been laid off. More than usual. Could be just end of year contracts winding down though.

No layoffs here, but we do have a hiring freeze.

[xray731]

Originally Posted by oldsoldier1976

Unfortunately I will dismiss this story because it is a Fox News station. As far as I am concerned they have an agenda and with the parent company paying $780,000,000.00 settlement for lying about voting.

You're on the Politics forum and know there are 2 threads currently about the migration stats reported by Uhaul and United Van Lines - time to open up your eyes and accept the truth.

[Toxic Waltz]

The ONE thing that has absolutely zero effect on out migration in MA is the political climate and its resulting laws and taxation. The one thing.

[massnative71]

Originally Posted by Toxic Waltz

The ONE thing that has absolutely zero effect on out migration in MA is the political climate and its resulting laws and taxation. The one thing.

That is quite a stretch to say. You can't say the politics here doesn't play a role in the unbearable COL and crushing laws and regulations that absolutely affect the QOL.

[massnative71]

Originally Posted by masssachoicetts

My point in showing these images are that two extremely similar states with extremely similar median household incomes are pretty much diverging in the quality of products that they provide. NJ has a much higher tax burden (specifically on property taxes) because a very large proportion of residents work in neighboring states, so they loose a lot of tax revenue. Massachusetts could provide this similar product with a much less tax burden given the very vast majority of MA residents work in MA and home prices are inflated. It can be done to retain more residents (Specifically younger), and make the state more affordable/attractive/desirable to live in. This would solve many of the big issues on why people are fleeing the state.

It's kind of hard for MA to maintain its infrastructure when it's spending almost a $Billion per year putting up migrants in hotels.

[msRB311]

Originally Posted by massnative71

It's kind of hard for MA to maintain its infrastructure when it's spending almost a $Billion per year putting up migrants in hotels.

Exactly. The future of MA and the Boston area does not seem bright to me. I'm not sure how anyone could think otherwise.

[Jimrob1]

Originally Posted by massnative71

It's kind of hard for MA to maintain its infrastructure when it's spending almost a $Billion per year putting up migrants in hotels.

Most definitely. The infrastructure is completely crumbling, yet all this money being spent on hotels etc etc.

[BostonBornMassMade]

Originally Posted by msRB311

What NIMBY policies? The not wanting affordable housing? Or not tearing down woods to build more homes?

The problem is the lack of people wanting to move to the towns that don't already have a tony/stellar reputation. Cramming more people and homes into the nice towns makes them...well less nice after a while.

We've seen some towns gentrify and become more desirable and I'd say we need more of that. Arlington has changed a lot - Natick, needham, Melrose, Burlington as well....I'd prefer to see more of that...not saying I want more towns to become million dollar, unaffordable towns...but it would be great to see other towns get better because nice families chose to move there instead of just leaving the state because they couldnt afford Hingham or Milton.

The quality of life in most MA towns is crappy. They are extremely threadbare honkeyy tonk looking towns with poor public space maintenan. That’s part of why people dont want to live there. Too many underdeveloped towns with vacant lots, an aged populace, very high price tags, limited business hours of operations, faded karaoke bars, dive bars, and 99s. Too many faded and warn Park benches, close food stands,. non functional water fountains,etc. too many town centers with just CPAs, antique shops, bad Greek pizza spots, and banks.

Other states have much deeper and more numerous poverty pockets but the baseline middle class community lifestyle is softer, warmer, more affordable, more modern, more convenient, and less high pressure.

Newer roads, newer homes, lower prices, more ethnic variety of eateries, newer, rotaries fresher, paint more chains, more convenience, more landscaping, more/subdivision/county services, better and easier freeway access.

But also, Massachusetts has a lot of large cities that while on paper may seem to be kind of OK not terrible , are still dominated by an overall feeling of their better days are behind them, and that a large and disproportionate lower income population with roots in the Global South is the predominant demographic within them. They also tend to have old fogey undereducated townie leadership- not even young white collar professionals most of the time. In some other states, this is not the case, and cities typically are regional drivers of culture, attracting middle class young families and yuppies. For a lot of people these regional state level cities are a Bellweather, as to how their Sub region within their state is doing. When you’re looking at places like Worcester and Springfield and New Bedford and Lowell and Fitchburg as you’re sort of regional centers it doesn’t necessarily inspire optimism —no not even Worcester because when you’re there on the ground it doesn’t feel very nice. And it’s income are still fairly low.

The NIMBY peopke (you) prefer crappy dives, inconvenient general stores, and literal hay merchants over dense modern new housing and new entertainment and retail options that would significantly rejuvenate the town and add to its tax base whilst making it more affordable over time. Because” traffic and overcrowding” and how has that been working out thus far…

[BostonBornMassMade]

Originally Posted by CaseyB

No thanks. People are fleeing NJ at a greater rate than they are leaving Massachusetts.

Due to taxes though