Flagler on the River-Mid-rise addition to Miami (Miami Beach, Palmetto: section 8, condos)

[perry335654]

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[tallrick]

More stack em and pack em. I am amazed that people invest in this stuff.

[perry335654]

^^^I wouldn't want Miami to look like Sao Paulo even in the Little Havana area, it is dense enough as it is.

[MiamiRob]

^ Miami is already one of the most densest cities in the US with an average population density of close to 12,000 people per square mile. That is almost equal to the density of Philly! Miami has no room to grow except upwards hence all the skyscrapers currently under construction downtown and in east Little Havana. We will see more of this in the future and why is this a problem anyways? Increased residents and more tax revenues for the city of Miami.

[tallrick]

So where are those warehoused people going to get incomes to support the overpriced Miami lifestyle? We need more growth in open space and less population growth.

[Wild Style]

Originally Posted by MiamiRob

^ Miami is already one of the most densest cities in the US with an average population density of close to 12,000 people per square mile. That is almost equal to the density of Philly! Miami has no room to grow except upwards hence all the skyscrapers currently under construction downtown and in east Little Havana. We will see more of this in the future and why is this a problem anyways? Increased residents and more tax revenues for the city of Miami.

I agree with you as long as they also build mass transit to support that density. Other wise its more people in cars, further adding to the congestion that is Miami traffic.

[Lior Arel]

Miami keeps urbanizing itself, which a lot of people like. I feel bad for the suburban and small town folk who feel pushed out. That's life, but I do feel for them.

It seems Miami has done a fair job with expanding public transit along with growth, but they will need to step it up a bit for the continued growth.

[hurricaneMan1992]

Originally Posted by tallrick

So where are those warehoused people going to get incomes to support the overpriced Miami lifestyle? We need more growth in open space and less population growth.

New development in open space is going to be gated communities with zero-line lots and townhouses, just look as west Broward, and by the way those houses are not going to be any cheaper than the new condos.

What we need is more ordinary, nothing-special townhouses and condos, which are NOT subsidized section 8 housing, replacing vacant or abandoned lots near the city center. Unfortunately, there is not much incentive for developers to build these.

[hurricaneMan1992]

Originally Posted by Lior Arel

It seems Miami has done a fair job with expanding public transit along with growth, but they will need to step it up a bit for the continued growth.

Er...then what ever happened in Miami Beach or upper Biscayne, and why does Metrorail to go the non-dense northwest section of town instead? How can there still be no rapid transit between Brickell and downtown and the beaches--the most rapidly growing and most urban neighborhoods in South Florida???? And the last two stations to be added (Palmetto and MIA) had nothing to do with population growth trends... The AAA Arena was built where the transit capacity is not sufficient for event crowds, and there was no transit expansion to accommodate the new Marlins stadium ... need I go on?

[JacobMAX]

Originally Posted by hurricaneMan1992

Er...then what ever happened in Miami Beach or upper Biscayne, and why does Metrorail to go the non-dense northwest section of town instead? How can there still be no rapid transit between Brickell and downtown and the beaches--the most rapidly growing and most urban neighborhoods in South Florida???? And the last two stations to be added (Palmetto and MIA) had nothing to do with population growth trends... The AAA Arena was built where the transit capacity is not sufficient for event crowds, and there was no transit expansion to accommodate the new Marlins stadium ... need I go on?

Yes, and that's only one of the factors. Not to mention that the trains, and even some stations should get a update, it shouldn't be like that in a County as big and as populated as this. There should be four (or even five) Metrorail lines by now connecting all most populated / denser areas, ideally...unfortunately, good proper public transit here will be kept only in the 'ideally' for at least a good bit of time.