08-23-2010, 03:50 AM
Location: Michigan
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The Michigan State Fair, the first of its kind in the United States, now has a more dubious distinction -- the first to go out of business. During a time of year when final preparations are usually being made for the fair, exhibitors and customers are struggling to deal with the loss of a staple of rural life for 160 years. Michiganians struggle with loss of state fair | detnews.com | The Detroit News (http://detnews.com/article/20100807/METRO/8070371/Michiganians-struggle-with-loss-of-state-fair#ixzz0xQAoMt56 - broken link)
08-23-2010, 11:27 AM
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"Michiganians struggle with loss of state fair."
Personally I
do not believe that statement. For many a trip to the Detroit area to go to a fair just does not work. there are other county fairs thru out Michigan that were and still are much better than the so called state fair way down and over on the South East side of the state.
I would much rather go to the Saginaw County fair or drive to the UP and go to the UPPER Michigan state fair.
The Detroit fair was poorly ran, the traffic to get there sucked and the parking was at best poor.
Al
08-23-2010, 11:36 AM
Location: West Michigan
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Agree with alleyyooper 100%. Went once while in college in the Detroit area and NEVER had the desire to go back.
08-23-2010, 01:06 PM
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I think some of you are missing the point. True, there are many well run local country fairs. It is good to hear you are supporting them. However, the state fair, in addition to highlighting Michigan's manufacturing and commercial ventures, also is the culmination of the growing season for Michigan farmers and, more importantly in my opinion, for our young people involved in 4-H. 4-H'ers compete at a local level, those who perfomed well then get a chance to complete against one another at the state level. As a former 4-H coordinator, I am very sad to hear that we will not have a state fair this year, not only because I enjoyed seeing the livestock and quilt displays, but for the opportunities lost to our young people. I had heard that there was an effort to look for private funding, much the way the Hudson's parade was saved from being just a memory.
08-23-2010, 01:27 PM
Location: Boyne Country
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My wife and I did a state fair back in '90 and it was just not worth it. After being to country fairs up north here for most of our lives we just couldnt fathom spending so much for parking, more for the gate and by time we got a snack to bide us over til dinner back at home we'd spent 35.00 (that was alot of money to us 20yrs ago) and we didnt do a thing.
08-23-2010, 02:23 PM
Location: Charlevoix
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Going to the Fair, going to the fair. Going to the NW Michigan Fair!
08-23-2010, 06:18 PM
Location: Michissippi
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You guys should see what the Minnesota State Fair is like. It's a huge event and has a dedicated campus (complete with a space needle and various rides) in an inner ring suburb next to the University of Minnesota, St. Paul campus.
08-23-2010, 10:18 PM
Location: Somewhere below Mason/Dixon
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The Michigan State fair was supposed to celebrate the rural heritage of the state. Having it located in the urban southeast just did not make sense. I believe now that it has failed there is an opportunity to revive it as a REAL celebration of rural life in Michigan. It should be located in a more rural area. The UP state fair is a great example of what it SHOULD have been all along. Possible locations for a new state fair could be Mt Pleasant, Owosso, Greenville, or if it needs to be closer to a big city, then Lansing. The towns listed above are in the very heart of Michigans agricultural areas, and while they would require southeast Michigan people to drive out at least 100 miles the new fair would truly represent Michigans rural heritage. A new fairground in the center of the state would be nicer, cleaner, safer, and would be more likely to succeed. Good riddence to the ghetto fair, like Detroit itself it was an embarassment to the whole state. Lets move it, start over and make it right. Sounds like a good project for the new Govenor next year.
08-24-2010, 09:01 AM
Location: Charlevoix
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The Michigan State fair was supposed to celebrate the rural heritage of the state. Having it located in the urban southeast just did not make sense. I believe now that it has failed there is an opportunity to revive it as a REAL celebration of rural life in Michigan. It should be located in a more rural area. The UP state fair is a great example of what it SHOULD have been all along. Possible locations for a new state fair could be Mt Pleasant, Owosso, Greenville, or if it needs to be closer to a big city, then Lansing. The towns listed above are in the very heart of Michigans agricultural areas, and while they would require southeast Michigan people to drive out at least 100 miles the new fair would truly represent Michigans rural heritage. A new fairground in the center of the state would be nicer, cleaner, safer, and would be more likely to succeed. Good riddence to the ghetto fair, like Detroit itself it was an embarassment to the whole state. Lets move it, start over and make it right. Sounds like a good project for the new Govenor next year.
Right on!
08-24-2010, 05:38 PM
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The Michigan State Fair, the first of its kind in the United States, now has a more dubious distinction -- the first to go out of business. During a time of year when final preparations are usually being made for the fair, exhibitors and customers are struggling to deal with the loss of a staple of rural life for 160 years. Michiganians struggle with loss of state fair | detnews.com | The Detroit News (http://detnews.com/article/20100807/METRO/8070371/Michiganians-struggle-with-loss-of-state-fair#ixzz0xQAoMt56 - broken link)
As a livestock (horses and cattle) exhibitor for over 40 years, let me give you my take on the Michigan State Fair. Although in the late 60's and 70's, I exhibited horses all over the United States, the one place that I hated to go was the Michigan State Fairgrounds. When I showed at the breed show there (not the State Fair), it was bad enough. During the State Fair, it was downright unsafe and heartbreaking. Horses were vandalized (tails and manes cut off plus more heinous crimes), equipment stolen, thugs roaming the barns at all hours of the night and day. I simply never took livestock to the State Fair - period. I realize that others did but everyone realized it was at their own risk. There wasn't enough security in the world to protect from the neighborhood locals scaling fences, sneaking in and out, etc. Trainers/owners regularly slept in the stalls with their horses to protect them.
As time went on and conditions only worsened, many of the breed associations petitioned (ie, begged) the state to consider moving the fairgrounds to a more central, country, safer location. There were always reasons why it couldn't be done. The historic significance of the grounds themselves seemed to always be the final reason no one (politicians) would step up and put things in motion. There were and are plenty of suitable venues for this wonderful celebration of rural/farming life outstate. The middle of one of the most dangerous and blighted areas of Wayne County surely isn't one of them.
The final death knell seems to speak for itself. I would bet if this state had any money, or could come up with some from grants or whatever, the Fair would make a comeback. Meanwhile, I can't imagine any serious exhibitors even wanting to consider going back down there, much less just the zillions of people who loved State Fair just to go and have fun as spectators.
I moved to the State of Wyoming in 1990 and discovered a whole new world of livestock exhibition. When livestock assume an importance that rivals auto building in this part of the country, the difference is huge! Sorry i got so long - just wanted to opine from the point of view of one who ended up showing in many different locations including the Michigan State Fairgrounds.
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People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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