08-04-2016, 04:42 AM
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Our daughter recently graduated from U of M and has accepted a temporary internship position in the Brighton area that will last from this coming week into early next year. The position is just under an hour's drive from us, much of it in heavy AA rush hour traffic.
We would like to find housing closer to that area for her, but everything seems so expensive. Even a youth hostel in AA is $72/night, which is just not doable for the long term. Any kind of studio or 1 bdrm apartment in a safe area is $600+/month, and this internship does not pay that kind of money, not to mention that she would likely be forced to sign a one year lease, and she may no longer be in that area after the internship ends.
She has some college friends who live in AA, but they are all still students in their senior year, so they live in campus housing which is not accessible to her...or is it? Has anyone ever heard of a university allowing recent grads to stay in their housing? I doubt it because of space constraints, but it would be ideal if she could room with a friend of hers who has a room near campus in university housing.
Can anyone suggest any options that we may not have considered? Safety is the main issue, with cost being a distant second. She can commute from home and save her money, but it is a long drive four days a week.
Thanks!
08-04-2016, 06:59 AM
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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She needs to get out of AA and away. AA is one of the most expensive areas in the Detroit Metro.
Right in close to Brighton is a little bit expensive, but if you get out a ways it is affordable. There are inexpensive apartments in South Lyon, New Hudson, Pinkney, Brighton Township, Fowlerville, Milford. . . .
Maybe she could find a place in Hell. That would be funny at least.
It may be hard to find a place through advertisements. A lot of small landlords just put up a sign and do not advertise.
She also might need to get away from the traditional apartment complex. Most of the small towns have apartments above the stores downtown. Many places have small houses or trailers to rent or a guest house.
If she does not have a problem with trailer parks, there are often cheap rentals there.
Depending on her budget, you can sometimes find an RV or camper for rent. People just set them up in their yard and rent them out. They do not advertise that though because it is illegal.
There is a good chance her employer can help her find an affordable place.
One of the best ways to find something for rent is networking. If Mable at church hears your daughter is looking for a place, she till tell her nephew John who is renting a small house but only to a nice tenant. The problem is you cannot meet Mable unless you are already living there and attending that Church.
Also she can get a roommate. My daughter did that and found a trailer for $700 a month so they will be paying $350 each. A short term deal is harderto find, but they are out there
08-04-2016, 08:56 AM
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I'm concerned that you have a college educated adult and you aren't having her do the apartment hunting process. You're being a helicopter parent and aren't affording her the opportunity to develop on her own. It's setting her up for failure long term (i.e. thinking someone else will solve her problems). It's okay to encourage and provide guidance - but this should be her search, not yours.
08-04-2016, 09:12 AM
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I'm concerned that you have a college educated adult and you aren't having her do the apartment hunting process. You're being a helicopter parent and aren't affording her the opportunity to develop on her own. It's setting her up for failure long term (i.e. thinking someone else will solve her problems). It's okay to encourage and provide guidance - but this should be her search, not yours.
I can understand where you could think this, and you are entitled to your opinion. However, in our family we help each other out and we are just helping her to find something. We are not going to pay her rent or utilities, or help her out in any other way. She lived away at college for the past four years and did just fine without us, financially and otherwise. She is only living with us temporarily and comes and goes as she pleases.
Pretty much every parent with adult kids that I know is willing to help them out when asked, and she has been asking us for our advice and guidance in this matter, as she has never lived anywhere other than at home or in university housing and is a young, single female.
It would be a sad world if it were the norm not to help our kids, wouldn't it?
08-04-2016, 09:13 AM
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She needs to get out of AA and away. AA is one of the most expensive areas in the Detroit Metro.
Right in close to Brighton is a little bit expensive, but if you get out a ways it is affordable. There are inexpensive apartments in South Lyon, New Hudson, Pinkney, Brighton Township, Fowlerville, Milford. . . .
Maybe she could find a place in Hell. That would be funny at least.
It may be hard to find a place through advertisements. A lot of small landlords just put up a sign and do not advertise.
She also might need to get away from the traditional apartment complex. Most of the small towns have apartments above the stores downtown. Many places have small houses or trailers to rent or a guest house.
If she does not have a problem with trailer parks, there are often cheap rentals there.
Depending on her budget, you can sometimes find an RV or camper for rent. People just set them up in their yard and rent them out. They do not advertise that though because it is illegal.
There is a good chance her employer can help her find an affordable place.
One of the best ways to find something for rent is networking. If Mable at church hears your daughter is looking for a place, she till tell her nephew John who is renting a small house but only to a nice tenant. The problem is you cannot meet Mable unless you are already living there and attending that Church.
Also she can get a roommate. My daughter did that and found a trailer for $700 a month so they will be paying $350 each. A short term deal is harderto find, but they are out there
Thanks for all of the excellent advice. I have passed it along to our daughter.
08-04-2016, 09:14 AM
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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It is pretty common for college graduates today to have no idea how to find/rent an apartment. There is nothing saying she is not hunting on her own. The post simply said the daughter ran into a dead end and Mom is trying to help. Nothing wrong with that. Mom has CD connections.
We helped our daughter hunt for a place to live as well as a roommate. None of our location leads panned out and she found a place on her own, but I was able to draw her attention to a possible room mat who will apparently be her roommate.
I do not see a problem with any of that.
Heck my wifes parents bought us a new washer and dryer when I was 31 and making a decent income. While visiting, the noticed our W/D were old battered and not working very well so they went and bought new one and had them installed while we were at work. We had lots of bills to meet and a new WD was not on the horizon, but they wanted to be sure our new babies had very clean clothes and diapers. We were appreciative, and it did not make us any less independent or incapable, it was just a nice gesture.
My dad is 86. When he comes to visit, if he arrives before we get home he will go out an chop up a fallen tree, or mow the lawn, or something. He is not a "helicopter parent and he is not making us dependent. He is just doing something nice.
My sister loves shopping at salvation army and resale shops. She buys stuff for everyone when she goes. She just likes to make her circuits and find stuff. We give her a list and she finds it and we send her the $. I have never bought casual clothes for myself and none for my kids in the past 10 or so years except for an occasional Christmas present. If my sister has a legal problem or question, or wants to know about plants or selecting a car, or travelling within the US, she would call me for help. We are not co-dependant, we just like to help each other out when practical.
When my 24 year old daughter was looking at moving from Yuma to Denver or Portland, I sent her stuff from CD on both places. I also E-mailed apartments and other rentals I happened to come across. I helped her get in touch with a friend of a friend of mine who teaches in Denver and was willing to tell her about the area and teaching there. She did her won searching and researching as well. That is not "helicopter" parenting. It is helping out with a monumental task and exploiting your resources to help your kids. I will do that my entire life. You do not just chuck your kids out the door and tell them have a nice life. Part of being a family is helping each other out.
Families stick together had help each other out with their tasks. It is what they do. I would think it would be difficult to get through life without that.
08-04-2016, 10:42 AM
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Craigslist. It's a rural area and there are legitimate people with apartments out back or a bedroom for rent. A friend should go with with her, of course, when checking them out.
08-04-2016, 08:38 PM
Location: Back in the Mitten. Formerly NC
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Check for sublets. I believe Craigslist has a whole section.
Is there anyone at work that would rent a room? When I had a temporary job and had a hard time finding affordable, short-term options, one of my coworkers with kids off in college offered to rent a room. Perhaps she should ask around at work.
However, sub $600 is getting pretty hard to find in most communities, especially within driving distance to Ann Arbor or Detroit.
08-05-2016, 12:21 AM
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Thanks to all of you for your suggestions. She drove up to that area yesterday to look around a little more and the drive is not terrible, albeit she went in late morning after rush hour in AA was over. At least the one lane construction on 23 is gone now and it is pretty much wide open all the way, so since she will start out commuting at least at first and it's summertime, it won't be too bad.
She did check Craigslist and there are a lot of sublets, roommates needed, etc. on there, it's just a matter of finding one that is safe and practical, especially safe. A young woman just about her age was abducted and murdered while riding her bike along rural roads about thirty miles from us a few weeks ago, so the world is definitely not a safe place for a young woman on her own anymore, sadly.
Thanks again.
08-08-2016, 09:02 AM
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Green Oak, Hamburg (Pinckney) and Putnam (Hell) are going to be cheaper and closer to Brighton. Howell may also offer affordable accommodations, but these maybe north of Howell. Fowlerville is a commute--even via I-96 and Grand River is not a quick drive.
Best bet is south of Grand River, possible a sublet or if there exits a month-to-month in the area east of Rickett--North of LEE Road--west of US 23...
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Most Common Occupations - Sales and office occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)