Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Michigan
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 10-03-2008, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
13,387 posts, read 19,432,243 times
Reputation: 4611

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by magellan View Post
"Smoker" is not a minority or a protected class. It's an activity.

Smoking should be illegal anywhere but on your own property.

Like I said before.......it will be,, but it' won't be "Illegal", it'll prohbited in public places.

What I don't understand is why alcohol is'nt banned. It can create serosis of the Liver, brain disorders, affect driving abilities and it causes tens of thousands of accidents with deaths each year.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 10-03-2008, 03:58 PM
 
Location: MI
1,069 posts, read 3,199,371 times
Reputation: 582
Quote:
Originally Posted by mkfarnam View Post
Like I said before.......it will be,, but it' won't be "Illegal", it'll prohbited in public places.

What I don't understand is why alcohol is'nt banned. It can create serosis of the Liver, brain disorders, affect driving abilities and it causes tens of thousands of accidents with deaths each year.
Not only alcohol but cell phone use while driving is causing as many accidents as drunks but the government will never outlaw either because the majority of Americans drink and have cell phones.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-03-2008, 04:07 PM
 
65 posts, read 123,118 times
Reputation: 27
"Smoker" is not a minority or a protected class. It's an activity.

" Smoking should be illegal anywhere but on your own property.".......OK.................

Hey self serving tyrants...........all it needs is mob rule majority democracy to be a minority/protected class.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-05-2008, 09:28 AM
 
47,525 posts, read 69,707,823 times
Reputation: 22474
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter B View Post
Not a health issue? Oh Lord, another Rhodes Scholar

It's not a health issue if those people who smoke want to sit around together at some club or bar and you choose not to go into it.

They already smoke. If they want to sit together and socialize over a beer, how does that hurt you? Just have a sign posted outside the door advising everyone who might enter whether it's smoking or non-smoking.

Then those of us who don't smoke and don't want to inhale the smoke of others will choose to go elsewhere.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-05-2008, 09:30 AM
 
47,525 posts, read 69,707,823 times
Reputation: 22474
Quote:
Originally Posted by mkfarnam View Post
Like I said before.......it will be,, but it' won't be "Illegal", it'll prohbited in public places.

What I don't understand is why alcohol is'nt banned. It can create serosis of the Liver, brain disorders, affect driving abilities and it causes tens of thousands of accidents with deaths each year.
True. Smokers on their way home from a social event are not going to smash into my car and kill or hurt me.

Drinkers do far more serious damage to others than do smokers (as long as I'm not forced to enter a home or club of a smoker). Let's just bring back Prohibition!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-05-2008, 09:33 AM
 
47,525 posts, read 69,707,823 times
Reputation: 22474
Quote:
Originally Posted by mofromcheboygankalamazoo View Post
THANK YOU! i don't understand how people don' t get this!
don't punish those of us who choose not to smoke and keep our bodies healthy!!!
Whoever forced you to go into a bar or club where there was smoking? I don't smoke and it should be my choice not to go to bars where there is smoking. Same if I don't drink and don't want to be around drinkers. Just don't go in. Find somewhere else to go.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-05-2008, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Home!
9,376 posts, read 11,947,828 times
Reputation: 9282
It should be up to the owners of the establishments. Not the government.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-05-2008, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Northwestern Michigan
939 posts, read 2,681,619 times
Reputation: 411
Quote:
Originally Posted by kimba01 View Post
It should be up to the owners of the establishments. Not the government.
If the owners were smart and informed, government would not need to step in. As far as this issue goes, an amazing amount of business owners in Michigan are unable to comprehend the benefits of a smoke-free establishment
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-05-2008, 07:26 PM
 
1,004 posts, read 2,704,766 times
Reputation: 669
We've had smoking bans in New England now for several years, and it is wonderful. Of course, the smokers are all crying because they truly believe they have the right to polute the air non-smokers breath. I work in a pulmonology ward in a major hospital and its filled with (former) smokers, pretty much all of them thought lung cancer, emphysema, et al were something that only happens to somebody else. I have one patient who's a single mother, 27 y.o., smoked since whe was 13, sadly she'll be dead by the end of the year. ---I love em though, the misery of smokers keeps me employed.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-05-2008, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
13,387 posts, read 19,432,243 times
Reputation: 4611
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1979 View Post
We've had smoking bans in New England now for several years, and it is wonderful. Of course, the smokers are all crying because they truly believe they have the right to polute the air non-smokers breath. I work in a pulmonology ward in a major hospital and its filled with (former) smokers, pretty much all of them thought lung cancer, emphysema, et al were something that only happens to somebody else. I have one patient who's a single mother, 27 y.o., smoked since whe was 13, sadly she'll be dead by the end of the year. ---I love em though, the misery of smokers keeps me employed.
Then you should be thankful some of us are still around
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Settings
X
Data:
Loading data...
Based on 2000-2020 data
Loading data...

123
Hide US histogram


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Michigan
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:50 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top