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corps budget? just a part of the navy budget. As a part of the navy its not even known as many of the things the army needs to account for the marines as part of the navy just mooches off their parent navy such as most admin and medical and support functions and any training costs.
Like the saying goes " once a marine always a navyman!"
It's always wise to not put all your eggs in one basket.
Yea, and after the first day of combat operations when all the Sats they were depending on for tracking are taken out of service then what are they going to do?
PS
The real killers are the subs we have 60 years plus at being the top dog and they have none. The silent service by the end of 44 had blockaded Japan.
corps budget? just a part of the navy budget. As a part of the navy its not even known as many of the things the army needs to account for the marines as part of the navy just mooches off their parent navy such asmost admin and medical and support functions and any training costs.
Like the saying goes " once a marine always a navyman!"
Having worked with budget at HQMC level I can tell you that's not true. Now if you said aviation and medical, you may have had a point. All administration is done by admin marines or civilians funded by the Marine Corps. The Marine Corps has no medical personnel and all medical services are provided by the Navy. Aviation supply is also funded by "blue" dollars though planes are flown and maintained by Marines. You're right though, we are the part of teh Department of the Navy....the Men's Department. All joking aside, I have all the respect in the world for our SISTER service. For real, I'm playing, just poking back.
I know I'D sure hate to see USMC aviation go away; some of my best "war stories" over my 23-year USAF career involved USMC air- and ground crews!
Why does the USMC need their own air force? Why do we need a military within the military? Why do we need a marine corps 30 times the size of the next largest marine corps?
Why does the USMC need their own air force? Why do we need a military within the military? Why do we need a marine corps 30 times the size of the next largest marine corps?
Can someone please give me a reasonable answer?
A reasonable easy answer? Different missions. Why does the Army have helicopters, and the Air Force have helicopters, and the Marine Corps, and Coast Guard... etc...
The USMC should take a look at the Royal Marines, especially their actual mission and training. 3 Commando Brigade is everything the USMC says it is, and LESS. No need for organic Air(3rd Air Force) or Heavy Armor or Artillery(2nd Army). Currently the Combat Arms Brigades of the US Army are better at what the USMC does than the USMC. When 40 Commando RM was planning to leave Helmad, Afghanistan, the UK MOD asked CENTCOM to use US Army to replace UK RMs, because the Marines would screw up what the had accomplished. Screw up currently in full effect.
I love the Marines, but Harry Truman was 100% correct.
Yea, and after the first day of combat operations when all the Sats they were depending on for tracking are taken out of service then what are they going to do?
PS
The real killers are the subs we have 60 years plus at being the top dog and they have none. The silent service by the end of 44 had blockaded Japan.
I can't even pick which direction I want to go to comment on your first statement.
Your second statement about subs and them having none...
"American military chiefs have been left dumbstruck by an undetectedChinese submarine popping up at the heart of a recent Pacific exercise and close to the vast U.S.S. Kitty Hawk - a 1,000ft supercarrier with 4,500 personnel on board."
A war with China would result in world war three as the U.S. military would be tied up on China, North Korea would invade the south, Iran would try to wipe out Israel etc.
Electric-diesel subs are almost impossible to detect if they can get within operating distance in which to use their electric battery powered by battery only. The drawback is they have an extremely short operating range compared to nuclear powered subs. Almost all noise in a sub comes from the engineering department in the form of pumps and motors operating. Also the Navy knows where almost all opposing subs are 90% of the time. They are followed from the time they leave port by either electronic surv. and/or physical surv. by an american sub. This could have been the case here the Chinese sub was known about and could have been sunk at any time. Also in the submarine world, surfacing the sub is = to loosing most of the time.
Some of the secrets are coming out in the last ten years mainly first by Blind Man's Bluff on what we did to the USSR during the cold war involving subs.
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