Looking for a liberal Christian Church (live in, catholic church, money)

[Allan Trafton]

Originally Posted by jjacobeclark

What's your point? The American Psychiatric Association didn't remove homosexuality from its official list of mantal disorders until 1973. So technically, back then you could have been institutionalized for being gay in the US as well.

APA Policy Statement on Discrimination Against Homosexuals



Nowhere does the Bible specifically state that Jesus hates any particular group of people, but it does clearly state that any person who doesn't accept Jesus as the lord and savior is doomed to burn in hell. That means about 5 billion of the Earth's 6 billion souls are damned for all eternity. I also recall a story about a pair of towns called Sodom and Gomorrah. The town's inhabitants were a bunch of sexual deviants, that's where the word sodomy originates, likewise they were punished by a hail of fire and brimstone from heaven. Seems pretty hateful to me.

I really don't understand you. I read your posts and I think there very good, but lately I don't agree with you. Last week you berated a women for wanting to stay home and raise her children. This week a women is interested in a liberal church and you trash her religion. She wasn't interested in your opinion. She only wanted suggestions on a new church nothing more. I think your better than this.

[caieva]

People who say "no offense" when they clearly mean to offend show a marked lack of maturity.
The poster asked for a liberal congregation, not a lecture from an intolerant liberal.

I think it is time to move the conversation to the next generation, where we respect our commonalities rather than savage each other over our differences.

[EastSideMKE]

Originally Posted by caieva

People who say "no offense" when they clearly mean to offend show a marked lack of maturity.
The poster asked for a liberal congregation, not a lecture from an intolerant liberal.

I think it is time to move the conversation to the next generation, where we respect our commonalities rather than savage each other over our differences.

Labeling me intolerant sounds an awful lot like you're passing judgment on me, wouldn't you agree? That's not a very Christian thing to do.

[caieva]

You seem stuck in a righteous anger toward religion, and an unwillingness to believe a liberal person could call themselves Christian or vice versa, lashing out at those simply trying to give a thoughtful answer to a thoughtful question.
I would recommend the excellent book, "Good Without God" by Greg Epstein, the Humanist pastor at Harvard; it talks a lot about making a better world by respecting each other's views and seeing people and their motives in positive rather than negative ways, and not endlessly re-arguing the past, but moving toward a productive and cohesive future that respects everyone from atheists to evangelicals.
Peace!

[Dean Trails]

[quote=Milwaukee City;12015676]Remember the town Nineveh, where the same kind of people lived but God forgave the whole city.

I think the key, for Nineveh, was the folks there repented and asked God for forgiveness of their sins.
Sodom and Gomorrah did not repent and paid the price.

[Derry8107]

I believe that you can be both a Christian and a liberal. The most important thing is the personal relationship between you and God regardless of how others think how and what Christians should be.

Anyway, I don't know anything about Milwaukee Area but I noticed you are asking about liberal churches.

I have those churches in mind that I could share with you.

Episcopal Churches

United Church of Christ (Some are also named Reformed and Congregationalist Churches.)

*Please don't think that all of United Church of Christ/Reformed/Congregational Churches are like President Obama's former Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago because that is not true. Also, it is nothing like Churches of Christ.

Unitarian Universalist Churches

Metropatilan Community Churches (perfect for Christians who happen to be Gay/Lesbian)

All of churches I listed has their own website where you could look up its nearest location.

I personally prefer United Church of Christ. Why? Most importantly of all, it's liberal while being very tolerant of alternative lifestyles. God loves everyone and it's also biblical without sermons being offensive/judgemental/or bible-thumping people with less gossips based on my experience because it's deeply focused on your personal relationship with God with more people focusing on theirs instead of showing off.

Anyway, I hope this helps! I wish you the best in your search of finding a perfect church for you!

[Nuclear_Art]

Originally Posted by Derry8107

I believe that you can be both a Christian and a liberal. The most important thing is the personal relationship between you and God regardless of how others think how and what Christians should be.

You don't even have to believe it, it is a fact. Jesus was a pacifist and he wasn't what would pass for a conservative today. He would be appalled and saddened at the hate and the intolerance of the political right. Christianity is all about the teachings of Christ and if anyone thinks it is about intolerance, then they are not getting it.

[EastSideMKE]

Originally Posted by caieva

You seem stuck in a righteous anger toward religion, and an unwillingness to believe a liberal person could call themselves Christian or vice versa, lashing out at those simply trying to give a thoughtful answer to a thoughtful question.
I would recommend the excellent book, "Good Without God" by Greg Epstein, the Humanist pastor at Harvard; it talks a lot about making a better world by respecting each other's views and seeing people and their motives in positive rather than negative ways, and not endlessly re-arguing the past, but moving toward a productive and cohesive future that respects everyone from atheists to evangelicals.
Peace!

I recommend you read "God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything" by Christopher Hitchens. I have a really hard time believing Christians when they say they want to make the world a better place. If you believe when you die that you're going to live in a paradise known as Heaven for all eternity, then what could possibly motivate you to make this temporary realm of existence a better place?

[scocar]

JJacobeclark,

Because that is your ticket to Paradise. Jesus asks us to love our neighbors as ourselves. By making the world a better place we are following Christ's teachings.

[Sparkle Eyes]

I know this is an older thread, but I have to respond.

scocar - Your "ticket to heaven" does NOT rely on doing good things / making the world a better place. It has nothing to do with works. Your "ticket to heaven" is about believing that only through a deep and committed relationship with Jesus; believing that He is the true God. Doing good things for others is done in the glory of God is because He wants everyone to treat others well. Kinda like The Golden Rule.

The Catholic Church especially enjoys telling their flock they need to do good things and give money to their church to get into heaven. Neither is required.