Does Minneapolis Need a New Tallest Building? (skyscraper, near)

[knke0204]

Originally Posted by Glenfield

You actually could not be more wrong. I cannot for the life of me imagine what religion or politics would have to do with any of this, or where you would get the idea that I subscribe to some sort of "pop environmentalism," ( the very thought of which makes me chuckle) but that little winking guy at the end of my post was supposed to tip you off that my comment was tongue in cheek.

As to now I really feel about old buildings, i think some of them, like the one I live in, are very useful and nice. Others are worthless and are best removed. Perhaps some that are now gone could have been preserved, but we weren't there on the spot when the decisions were made, and it's easy to second guess our predecessors, especially when we don't have to deal with the practical issues.

But you do see the parallel with the cars, don't you? As a collector's item, a 54 MG or 32 Ford is a wonderful thing, but in day to day use it would be a nightmare.

Reminds me of my father and his boat.
He had a boat that my grandfather gave him.
It was from the 1960s.
Beautiful boat. Gorgeous. One of those "They just don't make them like this anymore"-types.
He hung on to it, storaged up, hoping it would "be worth big-bucks someday"
A boat guru came out and looked at it and basically said he just had a very big souvenier. Old, big, cool looking pile of metal.

Same concept. It's sad that we had to bring it to the junkyard, but we weren't just going to keep it around for nostalgia.

[joemits]

sounds like a trip to skyscrapercity is warranted.
North American Skyscrapers Forum - SkyscraperCity

[knke0204]

Originally Posted by srsmn

Two immediate thoughts:

#1. St. Paul certainly counts as core, too. Downtown St. Paul is the second largest employer in the area. Adding St. Paul would bring us up to, what? 18%? More on par with Seattle.

#2. There is no way there are 4.4 million people in metro Denver, even by the most liberal definitions. Whole state of Colorado is only 5.1...

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#1. In the previous conversation, St. Paul wasn't mentioned at all. Only Mpls. Thats why I didn't include StP

If you were to include St. Paul, population 285,000, into Mpls' the total would be 667,646 in about 115 square miles.

Twin Cities: 667,646 / 3,317,308 = roughly 20% 115 square miles
Seattle: 608,660 / 3,344,813 = roughly 18% 143 square miles
Denver: 619,968 / 2,600,000 = roughly 24% 155 square miles

So, the Twin Cities still pack more of a punch than Seattle. That's why it gets me that so many people on C-D, especially in the General USA forums, regard Seattle as some major punch packing metro on some elite level, higher than the Twin Cities.

#2. And yes, wow, how did I mess that up? it's more like 2,600,000 for Denver, YIKES! haha

[Ghengis]

wouldn't it be easier and cheaper to just jack up one of the ones we already got a few feet?

[1stpontiac]

Originally Posted by Ghengis

wouldn't it be easier and cheaper to just jack up one of the ones we already got a few feet?

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[Glenfield]

Originally Posted by Nexis4Jersey

Idk about that , although alot of companies moved to Jersey and out of Manhattan. But since 9/11 theres been a boom in high rises and Skyscrapers in the region over 300 built since 9/11 , 12 in Lower Manhattan. 58 in Jersey City and the rest are in the outer boroughs and satilite cities...

Again, I'm just relating what people I know tell me about how they feel about working in these buildings, not about whether or not developers and corporate tenants fintheses to be economically viable. Because they make money doesn't mean all people feel 100% comfortable in them.

[green_mariner]

Originally Posted by Glenfield

Again, I'm just relating what people I know tell me about how they feel about working in these buildings, not about whether or not developers and corporate tenants fintheses to be economically viable. Because they make money doesn't mean all people feel 100% comfortable in them.

Why would people feel uncomfortable with skyscrapers?

[knke0204]

Originally Posted by green_mariner

Why would people feel uncomfortable with skyscrapers?

Glenfield was refering to people (worker bees) living/working in Lower Manhattan post-9/11 and the "idea" of it.

[rcsteiner]

Originally Posted by green_mariner

Why would people feel uncomfortable with skyscrapers?

Ever seen The Towering Inferno?

[green_mariner]

Originally Posted by rcsteiner

Ever seen The Towering Inferno?

I also saw the images from 9/11. It never scared me from getting on a plane. To be honest, I don't remember ever going into a skyscraper, so I wouldn't have any preconceptions of it.