03-25-2014, 01:10 PM
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Thanks again everyone, great information and great to know that Hockey is alive and well (maybe too much so) in Minnesota. lol...
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Thanks again everyone, great information and great to know that Hockey is alive and well (maybe too much so) in Minnesota. lol...
Just a word of caution, again, 1200 kids/grade graduate from Wayzata--if your kids are not THE BEST, they won't feed into the high school programs and might not make it to next year for the youth programs....especially with the open enrollment options out there...just something to consider....there is something to be said for being a standout on a team...and chances are slim at Wayzata or any of the other Mega-Schools. And to be honest, Wayzata Hockey isn't that great...3 state tournament appearances, one in 2013, one in 2004 and the 3rd in 1954....
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03-26-2014, 12:03 AM
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Thanks again everyone, great information and great to know that Hockey is alive and well (maybe too much so) in Minnesota. lol...
These areas should serve you well. I'd look to straddle the line between the best of the two. I'd want the bigger house/bigger lot/cheaper price-tag in the Plymouth area. Near a lake for outdoorsy stuff, but still in Wayzata schools, a short drive to Lake Minnetonka, etc. Anywhere in this area is going to be top-notch.
03-26-2014, 07:04 AM
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Just a word of caution, again, 1200 kids/grade graduate from Wayzata--if your kids are not THE BEST, they won't feed into the high school programs and might not make it to next year for the youth programs....especially with the open enrollment options out there...just something to consider....there is something to be said for being a standout on a team...and chances are slim at Wayzata or any of the other Mega-Schools.
And to be honest, Wayzata Hockey isn't that great...3 state tournament appearances, one in 2013, one in 2004 and the 3rd in 1954 ....
Minnesota Boys' High School Hockey-Tournament Appearances by Team
That is not a good way of gauging how good a program is. Wayzata was #2 in state at the end of the year, but their section includes Eden Prairie and Benilde, so making the state tournament is always a crap shoot. It is like saying that White Bear isn't very good because Hill Murray tends to win the section more often.
03-26-2014, 07:09 AM
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That is not a good way of gauging how good a program is. Wayzata was #2 in state at the end of the year, but their section includes Eden Prairie and Benilde, so making the state tournament is always a crap shoot. It is like saying that White Bear isn't very good because Hill Murray tends to win the section more often.
The real point is the chances of actually getting to PLAY in the Wayzata system--and that includes the youth leagues....
WBL had plenty of state tournament appearances. Eden Prairie only has 5 and Benilde only has 4....
Wayzata seems to have had 2 or 3 years of good programs lately--great..but again, the real issue is playing time....they can only carry so many kids on their roster....
03-26-2014, 07:20 AM
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I'd personally put more stock in a programs success lately, it shows that they are getting better at the youth level (which is what the OP is asking about). Also, her kid will most likely get to play no matter which city they decide to live in, the question is at what level; A, B, or C.
03-26-2014, 08:32 AM
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If you move here this spring or summer, my good friend works at a place that has two smaller studio sized rinks in St Louis Park. These type of rinks are the newer "thing" the last few years. There's over 90 teams in the summer 3 vs 3 league. I know the owner also, so I could put you in touch with him if it's something you'd have an interest in. All ages skate there from little kids learning to skate to high school. Zack Parise, Thomas Vanek, Drew Stafford etc...skate there many times a week during the offseason, so the small rink is the way to go.
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03-26-2014, 08:34 AM
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I'd personally put more stock in a programs success lately, it shows that they are getting better at the youth level (which is what the OP is asking about). Also, her kid will most likely get to play no matter which city they decide to live in, the question is at what level; A, B, or C.
great...but a kid playing C level through 9th grade isn't likely to make the high school team
He has a MUCH better chance growing up in a successful program like WBL to actually get to play in high school because they don't have 1000 kids trying out for 15 spots...
03-26-2014, 08:52 AM
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great...but a kid playing C level through 9th grade isn't likely to make the high school team
He has a MUCH better chance growing up in a successful program like WBL to actually get to play in high school because they don't have 1000 kids trying out for 15 spots...
Trust me I understand how hockey works, and if her kid is playing C level their whole life it doesn't matter which city they grow up playing in, their chances of make a Class 2A high school team are virtually zero. However, her question was about youth hockey programs, and no matter where they live, their kid will be able to participate in that program. You are also assuming that their kid isn't any good and going to Wayzata will spell the end of his hockey playing days. For all we know he could be a stand out. Also, I can almost guarantee that making the A team for White Bear is just as difficult as making the A team for Wayzata.
03-26-2014, 09:01 AM
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Trust me I understand how hockey works, and if her kid is playing C level their whole life it doesn't matter which city they grow up playing in, their chances of make a Class 2A high school team are virtually zero. However, her question was about youth hockey programs, and no matter where they live, their kid will be able to participate in that program. You are also assuming that their kid isn't any good and going to Wayzata will spell the end of his hockey playing days. For all we know he could be a stand out. Also, I can almost guarantee that making the A team for White Bear is just as difficult as making the A team for Wayzata.
Trust me, I know how it works too, but if you have 1000 kids trying out for 15 spots vs 100 kids....
Just pointing out the facts and if they choose to go to the biggest school/program in the state, it limits their chances at all levels--and yes, they do cut at the lower levels too.....
He also just might not be aware that Wayzata is 2 to 3 times larger than almost all of the other schools in the metro...
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Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
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Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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