06-04-2009, 05:27 PM
Location: Norwood, MN
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Why not a retractable roof???
They werent allotted enough money by the state for a roof.
06-04-2009, 09:37 PM
Location: MN
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Man, this stadium is going to rock. I can't wait for this. I have waited all my life for this... I can truely say that I have followed this team since I could remeber. I am one of the rare fans that stuck through the mid to late 1990s of season after season of losing teams. Tom Kelly kept those teams respectable, and with an embarassing budgets near $10-15 Million dollars annually. I also remember going to games at the dome with only 11,000 people there. I can't wait.
06-04-2009, 09:39 PM
Location: MN
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they will have to battle the same conditions as Boston, Philadelphia, Cleveland, Detroit, Chicago, Milwaukee, Seattle, NYC, Pittsburgh.
06-05-2009, 05:17 AM
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The dome is a concrete dump. I wouldn't go to a game with free tickets. They needed to remodel or a different stadium. For the life of me I cannot understand why EACH team needs their own (Twin's, Vikings, and the Gophers). For those out of state readers, currently, they all play at the same spot. I can promise you if the owners of the teams had to pay out of there pocket, they would have shared.
It seems like a
massive waste of money to build three spots especially when football only plays 10 games max a year out of 365 days.
I have not been following all all of this. What are they going to do with the current dome???
06-05-2009, 05:56 AM
Location: Bel Air, California
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Why not a retractable roof???
The costs involved ($200 million) would likely have scuttled the long-time efforts of the new stadium proponents early on in the process and it was somewhat of a miracle that they found the needed political support to even get the stadium as designed built as it was. The stadium is not being built as "roof-ready" and the footprint of the new ball park would not likely leave room for the needed structure to support a roof in the future.
Personally, I'd rather bundle up and watch an outdoor game the 1st week of April outside than enjoy shirt sleeve temperatures in the Metrodome any day of the week and twice on Sunday. The Twins were forced into playing in the football configured Dome by the Vikings and Metropolitan Sports Commission who went out of their way to buy up land around the old stadium in Bloomington thus preventing any stadium from ever reappearing where the road infrastructure and space would have been a logical place to build a roofed facility in the future.
Ironically enough, the Twins get their outdoor ball park downtown and the Vikings will not get theirs given the current economic and political environment. Bye, bye Vikings. Don't forget to turn out the lights when you leave.
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06-05-2009, 08:06 AM
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Ironically enough, the Twins get their outdoor ball park downtown and the Vikings will not get theirs given the current economic and political environment. Bye, bye Vikings. Don't forget to turn out the lights when you leave.
Why do you have to be a hater? The Vikings aren't out of the stadium hunt yet. If I had to guess I'd say that they'll get a deal done to demolish the metrodome and build a retractable dome stadium on the same sight. While they are waiting for the new stadium to get built they'll play games at the Gopher's new football stadium (after the lease runs out in the dome at the end of 2011). If they are unable to get anything going until then they will either have to renew the Metrodome lease or at that point I'd be worried about the possibility of moving somewhere else.
06-05-2009, 08:38 AM
Location: Bel Air, California
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Why do you have to be a hater? The Vikings aren't out of the stadium hunt yet. If I had to guess I'd say that they'll get a deal done to demolish the metrodome and build a retractable dome stadium on the same sight. While they are waiting for the new stadium to get built they'll play games at the Gopher's new football stadium (after the lease runs out in the dome at the end of 2011). If they are unable to get anything going until then they will either have to renew the Metrodome lease or at that point I'd be worried about the possibility of moving somewhere else.
Not a hater. I grew up in Bloomington watching the Purple People Eaters in their outdoor environment and have great fondness for the Vikings history and optimistic about their on-field chances each and every year.
I'm also pragmatic enough to know they are run as a business first and the current ownership has no personal ties to the area and they will sell out or move the team to a more lucrative location as soon as the lease expires if the legislature doesn't provide an economic incentive (tax payer dollars)
before the lease expires. I wouldn't have a problem paying additional sales tax to build them a new stadium at the Metrodome or any other site but believe the vast majority of politicians and tax payers want no part of it.
They could pack up and relocate to LA tomorrow and play in the Colliseum or Rose Bowl with or without a new stadium on the drawing board out there and still have a greater revenue stream coming in to them then they would on a year-to-year lease at the Metrodome. Wilf knows the state will likely not find the support to participate in costs and he doesn't want to let another current team or expansion outfit beat him to the punch in LA. His only bargaining chip is to threaten to move the team and the outlash from the citizenry to those tactics have not worked here in the past nor will they in the future.
Hope I'm wrong but I doubt it.
06-05-2009, 03:19 PM
Location: Yootó
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Why not a retractable roof???
That's pretty much what I have been wondering.
06-05-2009, 05:24 PM
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I also remember going to games at the dome with only 11,000 people there. I can't wait.
11,000 fans would have been a treat in the early 80s. I was at a game 4000 fans in attendance. Sparse to say the least...
06-05-2009, 05:32 PM
Location: Minnesota
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They should start collecting a $2 new stadium fee right now with every ticket sold so in 20 years time when they want a new stadium at least they'll have a headstart.
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Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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