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Old 09-10-2012, 10:34 AM
 
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Quebec official language is French : Ontario official language is English. That's not new. Where is the OPPRESSION you are talking about? Keep calm and read..
Because I don't agree with your assessment, in a calm manner by the by, does not indicate disagreement with the legislation in various provinces. It indicates merely that only one province has felt it necessary to enforce draconian measures to supposedly "protect" a language. That is the oppressive part.

Any flourishing culture and language should stand on it's own and thrive based on it's merits as a relevant entity. It should maintain itself; should it not?

Enacting laws and applying those laws in an arbitrary manner is simply admitting a "weakness" right out of the box, is it not?
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Old 09-10-2012, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Because I don't agree with your assessment, in a calm manner by the by, does not indicate disagreement with the legislation in various provinces. It indicates merely that only one province has felt it necessary to enforce draconian measures to supposedly "protect" a language. That is the oppressive part.

Any flourishing culture and language should stand on it's own and thrive based on it's merits as a relevant entity. It should maintain itself; should it not?

Enacting laws and applying those laws in an arbitrary manner is simply admitting a "weakness" right out of the box, is it not?
In the absence of international borders or language territoriality (like Switzerland) there really is no other choice.

Even the mighty U.S. of A and the variety of the mighty tongue of Albion that they speak is feeling the pressure on its southern front, and they have an international border there!
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Old 09-11-2012, 11:38 AM
 
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More to add to the pathetic file CJAD 800
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Old 09-11-2012, 01:46 PM
 
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More to add to the pathetic file CJAD 800
That is quite sad actually...I cannot imagine throwing a sandwich at someone because they were minding their own business speaking their native tongue..this lady needs to get a life.

Why do Anglo's in Quebec put up with it? If possible leave and come to an area of the country where you can speak however you want without fear of assault via sandwich.

It might be said that Francophones have experienced this type of abuse in the past by Anglos's but does that make what this lady did right?
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Old 09-11-2012, 03:49 PM
 
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Why do Anglo's in Quebec put up with it? If possible leave and come to an area of the country where you can speak however you want without fear of assault via sandwich.
I'd give some serious consideration to that option but the rest of my family is too entrenched here with work and schooling and social life..
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Old 09-12-2012, 01:19 AM
 
Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada
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Can anyone tell me why I can't even get a job sweeping a floor at a VIA RAil station in Windsor without being bilingual?
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Old 09-12-2012, 01:37 AM
 
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Rather odd. is there more to the story? is a condition of employment for VIA maintenance staff across Canada bilingualism? or they are just using a creative way of saying you didnt get the job?
I can see that happening in Quebec but Windsor?I'd have a talk with your local Ombudsman,newspaper or MP as to why a floor sweeper in Windsor is turned away from a job because he isnt Bilingual..
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Old 09-12-2012, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Rather odd. is there more to the story? is a condition of employment for VIA maintenance staff across Canada bilingualism? or they are just using a creative way of saying you didnt get the job?
I can see that happening in Quebec but Windsor?I'd have a talk with your local Ombudsman,newspaper or MP as to why a floor sweeper in Windsor is turned away from a job because he isnt Bilingual..
As jambo said, it sounds a bit fishy. We'd need more info to have an opinion on the subject.

I suspect that even most ticket and service agents who work with the public at the VIA station in Windsor are not biliingual, and that there probably is one wicket staffed with a bilingual agent identified as such with a sign, and that the other wickets are staffed by English only speakers. This is usually the way it goes.

In any event, might I respectfully suggest that our friend aim higher with his or her career aspirations than a job sweeping the floor in a train station...
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Old 09-12-2012, 05:38 PM
 
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".... a job sweeping a floor at a VIA RAil station in Windsor without being bilingual?"

So he exaggerated a bit. LOL
More like the administrative jobs will come with such a prerequisite.

"Bilingual (English and French)
Candidates must meet the language requirements to be considered. A language test may be required.
Language skill levels of position (Read/Write/Understand/Speak): AABB or BBCC"
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Old 09-12-2012, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Montréal
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Les préposés au sens (I) | Le blogue de Josée Legault
Le blogue de Josée Legault

For those who read french, a very interesting point of view.
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