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Old 01-25-2014, 04:49 AM
Location: Viña del Mar, Chile
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Old 01-26-2014, 04:25 AM
Location: England
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I watched 'Heaven's Gate' last night, with a very reluctant Mrs English Dave........ It is a beautiful film to look at. Michael Cimino, and his cameraman, Vilmos Zsigmond, set out to make a work of art, I believe they succeeded.

It is a slow film, modern audiences are used to much more pace. Michael allowed nothing to get in the way of what he wanted to create, he ran rings round the executives at united Artists who tried to control him. I enjoyed it, and will watch it again at a later date......

This film is an example of an attempt to make art in a commercial medium. Movies have to make money. Film history is littered with artists destroyed by the film 'industry.' Two examples are Orson Welles and Erich Von Stroheim.

Michael and his film are being reassessed by modern critics and audiences. I think history will be kind to 'Heaven's Gate.'
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Old 01-26-2014, 02:55 PM
Location: New Jersey
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Other mega flops:

John Carter-I liked it though.
The Last air-bender
47 Ronin
Lone ranger
After Earth
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Old 01-26-2014, 04:39 PM
Location: League City, Texas
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"The Alamo" was a very good film with some excellent performances, especially by Billy Bob Thornton. Unlike previous films which centered on the siege and battle, "The Alamo" made an attempt to present the actual history in a balanced way, giving us multiple points of view.

Maybe that was the problem, people have been trained by Disney, Wayne, and the Daughters of the Alamo, to think that it was all 100 % American virtue at work. They could not accept a less glamorous approach.
I've noted elsewhere in this forum that this is one of my favorite movies. I love Billy Bob Thornton's portrayal of David Crockett.
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