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I saw this on the weekend and I'm sorry I did. It's just plain horrible. The story and characters are both horrible and frustrating. Some of the characters are unclear (having not read the book) and trying to figure them out was distracting from the rest of the horror story.
The book and the movie are, as often is the case, very different. The book focused on ALL the fault, of EVERYONE. The movie focused on basically one person's fault. It was a very complex situation with many players.
The book and the movie are, as often is the case, very different. The book focused on ALL the fault, of EVERYONE. The movie focused on basically one person's fault. It was a very complex situation with many players.
Interesting.
I need to read the book. I have an interest in Oklahoma history, and the Native Americans IN Oklahoma, so I was curious to see the movie. But I need to read the book.
I'm pleased to find the book is better because it's an important, if horrible, part of American history. I felt seeing Scorsese in it was not in good taste, either. I think the topic deserved better and if I ever get retired, I'll read the book, too.
I watch no end of thrillers and detective and police procedurals with murder and dead people, and my husband and sisters-in-law make sure I know they don't watch my kind of movies, but the DH picked this one and about 3/4 of the way through I told him no matter what you might think of the things I watch, this movie is a horror show.
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I agree that the book is very different from the movie. The people in Fairfax, whose grandparents lived through (and created this injustice) still don't see it as being unjust to the Native Americans. Those same feelings still exist.
I agree that the book is very different from the movie. The people in Fairfax, whose grandparents lived through (and created this injustice) still don't see it as being unjust to the Native Americans. Those same feelings still exist.
Very interesting. I don't think most people are jerks. I think most people justify their actions. Wonder how they justify theirs?
I grew up across the river from Osage County. About 30 miles from Fairfax. Anna Brown was living in our town when she was murdered over by Fairfax. When I was young (in the '60s and '70s) there were still people alive who lived the Osage "reign of terror". From what I remember about the old stories that isn't really covered to a great extent in the movie was the the fact that this was just the most famous story... but far from the only "head right" murder or swindle.
In fact Henry Roan was murdered for insurance money because he had already been swindled out of his allotment.
The other thing that I remember from those stories was just how extraordinary the wealth of the Osage was at that time and the fact that the money was (and still is) shared essentially equally among all tribal members. This of course made all of them targets because pretty much all of them were getting a half a million to a million a year in today's money for the period of time that the Burbank field was open. in the 1920s the Burbank field was the best producing field in the world.
Finally, one of our neighbors had an Osage headright in the '60s and '70s. The Osage fields weren't producing near like they were back then and the number of people who had claims to those headrights had increased due to the increase in tribal population... the neighbor told my father that he made as much from his headright as he did from his salary as a refinery worker.
When the headrights were distributed there were 2,229 of them (1906) for each member of the tribe. Now there are 20,000 tribal members (not all have headrights. Most are split up as families have expanded). I believe about 3/4 of headrights are still maintained within the tribal membership as after the "reign of terror" they passed a law that only tribal members could maintain them. Osage nation keeps growing because it is by lineal descent as opposed to blood quantum. You can have almost all the Osage bread out of you but if you can trace back to the original 2,229 members you are still eligible to be a tribal member.
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