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Old 01-09-2020, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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Never even heard of half of the bands and musicians on that list.


Money says in 20 years most people will not remember at least half of them either.
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Old 01-09-2020, 08:46 PM
 
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Getting into music today seems like getting into the horseshoe business. Yes, they are kind of cool but how many people still use them, really?
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Old 01-10-2020, 05:29 AM
 
Location: Itinerant
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Not saying 4/4 is the only time signature, just that it is the most used rock time. Soundgarden is a great example of unique rock but that is also a 30 year old example.

It seems like those with most of the more advanced and creative musicians are not sticking with the rock genre. Those that do, aren't very creative it seems. (there are exceptions)

As far as chords, same thing, very few bands move outside a handful of chords and progressions.

thornepalmer.wordpress.com/2011/12/29/the-10-most-used-chord-progressions-in-pop-and-rock-and-roll/
4/4 is the most used time signature in all western music except marching bands (where 2/4 is the most common).

Top ten most common chord progressions in pop and rock and roll. Those same progressions are used from Deep Purple to Taylor Swift. That's kind of my point.

Chord progressions are by their very nature limited a I-vi-IV-V progression applies to any scale, but it's still the same progression, Bach used it in the opening of his "Wachet auf, ruft uns die Stimme" (1731), that said it's a very different style to Ben E Kings "Stand By Me", or Justin Beibers "Baby", the same can be said for any progression, I-IV-V for example which should need zero introduction. The reason they're limited is that we find certain intervals concordant, and some discordant, chord progressions have to fit within a degree of concordance/discordance to resolve, and there are only 7 notes in a scale (12 with accidentals), and excessive discordance discounts 3-4 root notes right out the gate (like a I-ii-III, because it goes nowhere, it's missing the next step, and just feels like a false start)

So as we can see chord progressions are a red herring, as are time signatures, because we know time signatures AND chord progressions cut across every musical style, from classical to avante-gard. There's nothing different in Rock that would lead anyone to conclude it's time signatures or chord progressions.

And it's not innovation, when there's nothing to innovate with. It doesn't matter if the music is Dubstep, or a violin concerto, indeed if you want to hear innovation in chord progressions and out of the box thinking, it's not in popular music, it's in classical and jazz.
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Old 01-10-2020, 05:42 AM
 
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Not saying 4/4 is the only time signature, just that it is the most used rock time. Soundgarden is a great example of unique rock but that is also a 30 year old example.

It seems like those with most of the more advanced and creative musicians are not sticking with the rock genre. Those that do, aren't very creative it seems. (there are exceptions)

As far as chords, same thing, very few bands move outside a handful of chords and progressions.

thornepalmer.wordpress.com/2011/12/29/the-10-most-used-chord-progressions-in-pop-and-rock-and-roll/
Not sure if they got it right though...One of the most used progressions is not even mentioned:


VI - IV - V (Em - C - D)


Just about every dance/techno song and numerous Iron Maiden songs use that one
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Old 01-10-2020, 02:22 PM
 
Location: South Jordan, Utah
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Not sure if they got it right though...One of the most used progressions is not even mentioned:


VI - IV - V (Em - C - D)


Just about every dance/techno song and numerous Iron Maiden songs use that one
That is a funny combo. Iron Maiden and techno. LOL
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Old 01-11-2020, 06:24 PM
 
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I love rock and specifically an emphasis in blues rock.

Gary Clark Jr
The Black Keys
The Sheepdogs
Sister Sparrow and the dirty birds
Joe Bonamassa

Are all regulars on my playlist... sometimes I go with harder stuff at the gym but get tired of that quickly. Korn SOAD Disturbed Papa Roach Limp godsmack and Mudvayne all make it sometimes.
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