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Old 01-22-2014, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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Except for Chicken & Turkey all I eat is mammals!
How can you folks Deny people from eating what God put on this earth as food!

BTW have YOU see how Dolphins eat?? The roundup fish the heard them to shore so the Die & then eat them! To me that Cruel too! But no one says anything about it. & How about Crabs & Lobster that get Boiled Alive??
Dolphins and other animals do not know they are hurting other animals when they kill for food. They don't have a developed social conscience or compassion for the feelings for living things or whatever we humans allegedly have. To not understand that another creature hurts when killed is ignorance. To not care that another creature hurts when killed shows a definite mentality as low as the lowest of the animal kingdom.

There have always been protests against killing crabs and lobsters by boiling them because of the human conscience that it could be causing them to suffer.

If you want to use God as your argument, then you have to also follow the old Testament which as roughly translated from Hebrew in which it was first written states "Man is the custodian of the animals." The operative word here is "custodian" which means taking "care of." If that means using animals for food, it also should also mean taking care of them as well as possible before killing them. That is part of the strict way animals raised by Kosher standards are killed in the most humane way possible so they do not suffer at the time of death.

When some native American Indian tribes killed animals for food, they gave thanks to the spirit of the animal for supplying them with sustenance in which to live.

Some people will argue that killing animals in any manner for food is inhumane but that is not the point of this discussion. There can be no argument that the manner in which the way these wild dolphins are being slaughtered is cruel and terrible. If you believe in God, you cannot believe he put them here to suffer at the hands of ignorant men to be rounded up and slaughtered in such a terrifying manner.

 
Old 01-22-2014, 07:10 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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Well then folks should figure out How to kill without pain & suffering. Not worry about them being killed. As for the Family remark Cow are Heard 'Family ' animals So are most animals we kill for food or pleasure!
 
Old 01-22-2014, 11:02 PM
 
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Have you never saw the film:The Cove?
 
Old 01-23-2014, 06:19 AM
 
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Well then folks should figure out How to kill without pain & suffering. Not worry about them being killed. As for the Family remark Cow are Heard 'Family ' animals So are most animals we kill for food or pleasure!

Big difference between a herd of cows vs dolphins and whales (pods). But the humane treatment of cows
for food is another subject or topic.

A family - sound familiar?
Dolphin Families

Intelligence
Dolphin Brain and Intelligence
 
Old 01-23-2014, 08:53 AM
 
Location: On The Road Full Time RVing
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Dolphins are mammals and have live births.
There are a lot of different fish that have live births in including Whales


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They are also highly intelligent mammals that have a capacity for empathy and emotion.
So does a dog and cats and millions of people
around the world ( including the U.S. ) that eat them too.

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Old 01-23-2014, 08:57 AM
 
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Exactly.....slaughtering intelligent animals.



Yes, that's religious - stabbing them in the head with a knife.
Yes stabbing them in the head, or heart would be quick and best way to go.


I'm sure that's what God intended for these
intelligent and family oriented animals who communicate with one another. [/quote]

All animals communicate with each other ! ! !

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Old 01-23-2014, 12:22 PM
 
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It devastated me last night when I saw the news and they broadcast the slaying of all these dolphins. I chocked up badly...what gives us humans the right to kill any animal for food or pleasure very sad
I would be very careful with this sort of rhetoric. This has the effect of polarizing otherwise open-minded, reasonable people into associating efforts aimed at wildlife conservation with "nutter animal rights freaks".

Absent legitimate conservation concerns, very few people will have a real problem with the idea of killing an animal that will be eaten, although how many stipulations those same people will attach to make the concept more palatable will vary widely. When you say things like "YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO KILL ANY ANIMAL!!" to a member of this majority, the only response you should expect is to be dismissed as a crazy person... Because you're not REASONING, you are emoting. In reality, people do have the right to kill animals for food OR for pleasure, given that certain criteria are met. For example, your state has been vested with general powers - including the power to regulate and manage wildlife resources. When, for example, a hunter purchases a hunting license in his or her state of residence, then the state conveys the right to kill certain game animals via said purchase. That's objective. In nature, there are no rights. Everything simply does the best it can for as long as it can; it's a completely free, completely unregulated market for commodities and it's mean* out there... No permits or rights are required for anything. Given that humans naturally require foods with an amino acid profile and certain minerals, vitamins and fatty acids that precisely matches that found in fish, fowl, reptillian and mammalian flesh, skin and organ meats, I would venture that our very nature justifies killing animals for food. Most people will see an omnivorous diet under that light or something similar to it, yet they will likely be sympathetic to reasonable arguments against wanton slaughter of sophisticated marine mammals if you approach the matter in the right way.


*Actually, "mean" isn't the right word because it implies an emotional state where there is none. "Unforgiving with exceptionally high stakes" is probably a better description.
 
Old 01-23-2014, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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The fact of the matter is, the people who are slaughtering these dolphins are doing so in a cruel and inhumane manner that farmers and fishermen and others have agreed to cease doing by using less painless ways of killing animals used for food. You have the right to not care about these things but don't try to persuade others they shouldn't as well by your callous support of it.

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Old 01-24-2014, 02:38 AM
 
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That's horrible!
 
Old 01-24-2014, 06:43 AM
 
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The fact of the matter is, the people who are slaughtering these dolphins are doing so in a cruel and inhumane manner that farmers and fishermen and others have agreed to cease doing by using less painless ways of killing animals used for food. You have the right to not care about these things but don't try to persuade others they shouldn't as well by your callous support of it.
You say it is done cruel and inhumane.
How do you feel they should kill them, and why ?

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