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MrRational...
i too wonder what happened with the original poster. Oddly enough i am in the same basic situation, and in Texas as well. i guess you guys are in my shoes and just am sick to death of it here.
my only basic difference as far as i can tell is that i do not have an RV, i was planning on using an airstream, building a basic shelter for it, then living out of that while i built my house in a somewhat modular post and beam manner, with the upper done in traditional log, much like a lot of the traditional Norwegian stuff.
thats the gist of it anyhow, but construction may vastly differ depending on what resources the actual land we end up with has to offer, post and beam just happens to be what i am most comfortable with, but i am not married to it.
that brings up another point, anybody done this sorta thing with current use, i wonder how much i can harvest and use (lumber) legally under that, if i am using it for building materials and not just firewood?
i wont have a contractor either, as it will be me building it.
i will have an architect/engineer sign off on my final plan though.e
i still have a ton a research to do as i am sure i am ignorant to a lot of this.
as a side note, from there we plan to get thing into a sustainable farm eventually, then branch out from there, but that stuff is probably for another thread....
we have been saving our pennies for this, had our minds on it for more than a while, and thought and talked it over to an exhausting point.
sorry, i have got enough flack from those thinking this is just some star eyed dream, so i gotta mention that in our own defense. however, sure, it started out that way....
MrRational...
i too wonder what happened with the original poster. Oddly enough i am in the same basic situation, and in Texas as well. i guess you guys are in my shoes and just am sick to death of it here.
All of New Hampshire is incorporated. There is not county land that is not part of a town or city. One town way up in northern New Hampshire - the selectmen/town voted to unincorporate. That is the only exception that I know of.
Some smaller towns - low in population may not have a dedicated building inspector. One or all of the selectmen do the building inspections and permiting.
Most or all of the towns have adopted the national BOCA codes.
There are separate rules for wells and septic systems. The state monitors those. Wetlands are also watched.
All towns want to know what you are doing so that they can tax you properly.
If buying land in remote areas or real small population towns you should look up and read the Carl Drega story. This fella bought a piece of land way up north and began to construct a Summer home or a get away home. Read up on what happened to him in that small NH town.
All of New Hampshire is incorporated. There is not county land that is not part of a town or city. One town way up in northern New Hampshire - the selectmen/town voted to unincorporate. That is the only exception that I know of.
Some smaller towns - low in population may not have a dedicated building inspector. One or all of the selectmen do the building inspections and permiting.
Most or all of the towns have adopted the national BOCA codes.
There are separate rules for wells and septic systems. The state monitors those. Wetlands are also watched.
All towns want to know what you are doing so that they can tax you properly.
If buying land in remote areas or real small population towns you should look up and read the Carl Drega story. This fella bought a piece of land way up north and began to construct a Summer home or a get away home. Read up on what happened to him in that small NH town.
pretty sad considering that NH was voted freest state in the union recently
"Live Free or Die": N.H. Ranked Freest State in Union (http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/7916-qlive-free-or-dieq-nh-ranked-freest-state-in-union - broken link)
maybe they got better, or everywhere else just got way worse.
im not going to get up on my political soapbox here, so i will stop there.
i guess i just have to hope for a reasonable inspector, i do plan to build at least to code.
anybody have any idea where i can find info on what i can use from my land on a yearly basis for building materials for my own preperty, not for outside profit, on current use. mainly the harvesting of trees for building materials. i wonder how much that varies state wide. i remember reading something about a limit on yearly firewood, but thats not a building material. even if i did cordwood, i am not sure if that is sufficient enough of a loophole if i even need one.
am i going to be taxed if i take turf from my current use land and put it on my family home surrounded by my current use land. am i going to be taxed if i build with field stone, because i harvested it from current use land and put it on my home. i understand the forestry concerns, but those last two things seem pretty darn laughable. then again, when you look at all the fine print, i would not be surprised to find tax for those kinds of things someplace.
uhg... what about livestock, will i be taxed per head of sheep and so on....
for part of the season can i keep my pigs in the woods i am "not supposed to be messing with"
good grief it could go on forever....
i guess i can call an office up there and ask around until i get all the answeres on my list checked off
i am just ignorant of where to look to get all the ins and outs, then again i seriously doubt they will be all in one place.
hey thanks,
my mother in law was trying to sell me on those, and while they can be neat, and i really like the idea in many ways, i just cannot see living with those sort of aesthetics being good for me or my family over the long term.
i could see using them for a vacation house or something, but not a "home"
not for me anyway, i have lived enough places long enough to have some idea of how they make me feel long term and what i like.
i feel like spending time long term in one would be like spending over an hour in a shopping mall, and i can only take like 10 minutes in a mall.
i i wonder if i can get away with using the wood as building materials for my home if i am converting the land i take if from into pasture for my sheep.
otherwise it seems that it is 10% tax of the stumpage value per mbf
here is a link for that
Average Stumpage Values | Property Appraisal Division | NH Department of Revenue Administration (http://www.revenue.nh.gov/munc_prop/avgstumpval.htm - broken link)
it seems they think the general intent is to move the wood off the property, not use it to build on your property, then again, your property or not, you are taking it from current use and using it elsewhere.
All of New Hampshire is incorporated. There is not county land that is not part of a town or city. One town way up in northern New Hampshire - the selectmen/town voted to unincorporate. That is the only exception that I know of.
Actually, New Hampshire has 25 unincorporated areas, though not many people live in them - most have 0 population. I found this out when I was looking at a town map, and saw "towns" that I had not heard of before that had interesting names, such as "Bean's Purchase" and "Hale's Location" - here is the town map I was looking at: http://www.nh.gov/oep/programs/GIS/documents/towns2436.pdf (broken link)
So I looked them up, and found this which gives a description and history of each: http://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/hsem/HazardMitigation/documents/hmp-appendix-e.pdf (broken link) Dixville is one of the most populated areas, with a population of 75. This document is the only place I have read the word "micropolitan" as in "micropolitan statistical area". It's an interesting read if you like learning about the history of an area.
Cordwood construction (also called "cordwood masonry," "stackwall construction" or "stackwood construction") is a term used for a natural building method in which "cordwood" or short pieces of debarked tree are laid up crosswise with masonry or cob mixtures to build a wall.
You can also add bottles for interesting light effects in the wall.
There is also rammed earth. I thought it was only for the Southeast, but this article is about one built in Ontario. Ontario’s First Rammed Earth House » BEC Green Ontario’s First Rammed Earth House
You can also add bottles for interesting light effects in the wall.
There is also rammed earth. I thought it was only for the Southeast, but this article is about one built in Ontario. Ontario’s First Rammed Earth House » BEC Green Ontario’s First Rammed Earth House
hey thanks,
i wondered earlier if it counted as firewood if i took my firewood and build with it lol, but i doubt that is enough of a loop hole
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i remember reading something about a limit on yearly firewood, but thats not a building material. even if i did cordwood, i am not sure if that is sufficient enough of a loophole if i even need one.
wow yea, i had not seen rammed earth done up that far north either, i wonder how well it does somewhere wet.
still, post and beam, and log is kinda my thing, and the norwegian "stav laft" (?) style has been around for nearly 1k years (if not more) with some structures still intact proving their durability. furthermore, given norway's climate it should deal with new hampshires climate as if it were actually its own vernacular building style as far as i can see. raw materials seem darn close too.
i just really dig those aesthetics too, here is an interior, though not exactly a modern layout, and this one log and not post and beam. still it gives a good idea of the flavor. i will stop there in fear of turning this thread from something practical, into a stylistic discussion. Norsk Folkemuseum
All of New Hampshire is incorporated. There is not county land that is not part of a town or city. One town way up in northern New Hampshire - the selectmen/town voted to unincorporate. That is the only exception that I know of.
Some smaller towns - low in population may not have a dedicated building inspector. One or all of the selectmen do the building inspections and permiting.
Most or all of the towns have adopted the national BOCA codes.
There are separate rules for wells and septic systems. The state monitors those. Wetlands are also watched.
All towns want to know what you are doing so that they can tax you properly.
If buying land in remote areas or real small population towns you should look up and read the Carl Drega story. This fella bought a piece of land way up north and began to construct a Summer home or a get away home. Read up on what happened to him in that small NH town.
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, or everywhere else just got way worse.
