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Old 06-04-2021, 11:15 AM
 
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I positioned myself the best I could in MA - Big lot in backed up to a bunch of conservation land in an area where the neighbors leave each other alone as much as could hope for anywhere in MA - But a layoff and re-hire in a permanent remote role has me looking at the opportunity to escape the MA madness.

Looking at large plots (50+ acres) SW of White Mountain National Forest. Proximity to WMNF or to Worcester, MA or Albany, NY are a bonus. (Family won't relocate. )

Looking to buy cheap or build myself (*actually* myself, minus things like foundation, over a period of a few years), and looking to minimize taxes and neighbors that would be annoyed by my shooting or hunting.

Reading up on things today I ran into the earlier posts from the type of person I'm moving away from () and "current use." Realizing all of the things that I'd not known when purchasing for the first time in MA, I'm looking for info/advice. What's "current use?" What do I need to be looking for in terms of utilities or permitting off-grid builds if I can't get utilities? What things might I miss that unnecessarily pisses off locals?
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Old 06-04-2021, 12:54 PM
 
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Question What things might I miss that unnecessarily pisses off locals?

Don't worry about current use, ultimately it is just a tax adjustment and talking about it will awaken our resident contrarian to derail the thread.

Most lots, even in parts of central/southern NH are limited in "utilities" and have just electrical and maybe cable hookups. Permitting to build totally off-grid depends on the county/town, they are usually more concerned about how you're getting water and where your sewage will be going than what you do for electricity.

When doing work from home, usually you will need reliable and fast cellular and internet service, and these can be a real challenge out in the boonies. Even if you can get an electrical hookup, winter tends to bring multi-day outages, and solar doesn't work so great under 3' of snow and ice.

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Looking at large plots (50+ acres) SW of White Mountain National Forest. ...

Looking to buy cheap or build myself (*actually* myself, minus things like foundation, over a period of a few years), and looking to minimize taxes and neighbors that would be annoyed by my shooting or hunting.
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What do I need to be looking for in terms of utilities or permitting off-grid builds if I can't get utilities?
The thing about cheap large lots south/west of WMNF is that a fifty acre lot without an existing house on it is probably that way for a reason, may be "landlocked" or just cannot pass perc.

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Old 06-04-2021, 01:43 PM
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The State of NH DES actually has to approve your septic plan. The state website has tons of information, from DES to DMV regs. https://www.nh.gov/index.htm
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Old 06-04-2021, 03:20 PM
 
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I'd check out Sullivan County, NH, which is southwest of the White Mountain National Forest. Parts of the county are very remote and acreage prices are reasonable. This area is closer to Albany than to Worcester.
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Old 06-05-2021, 03:09 PM
 
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I'd check out Sullivan County, NH, which is southwest of the White Mountain National Forest. Parts of the county are very remote and acreage prices are reasonable. This area is closer to Albany than to Worcester.
That's largely where I'm looking, though my wife is also attracted to the Downeast area in ME. The perc issue is one I'm aware of but wasn't thinking about the possibility that a plot might have no possible area where I could get a pass. Landlocked plots are something I hadn't considered. Internet and the possibility of needing a very, very large battery bank are something I've planned for, and can absolutely handle myself.
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Old 06-05-2021, 06:03 PM
 
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...the possibility of needing a very, very large battery bank are something I've planned for, and can absolutely handle myself.
Hopefully someday we'll have hydrogen fuel cell technology and stable H2 storage, but until then, consider a couple really big propane tanks as the equivalent of a very very large battery which can only be refilled by a truck visit.

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The perc issue is one I'm aware of but wasn't thinking about the possibility that a plot might have no possible area where I could get a pass.
If you're lucky, there's some possible area that can pass perc. If you're really lucky, that area is downhill from where you want the house, else you need a pump and that much bigger a battery bank.
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