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Old 05-11-2009, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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I'm originally from NH, and currently live in Chicago. This would mean whenever I go home for Christmas, I should have to pay the 10.25% tax on everything I buy for people?

That's just crazy! I can't wait to move back east.
What?! You pay the tax where you bought the item. If you have it shipped to you, then you owe the tax based on where you receive it. If you buy it in one state and then bring it to your home state, and your home state has a higher tax rate, then you owe the difference.

 
Old 05-11-2009, 02:22 PM
 
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I"ll see all of you in the sales tax jail...


The Constitution

Article. I.
Section. 9.

No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State.


No Preference shall be given by any Regulation of Commerce or Revenue to the Ports of one State over those of another; nor shall Vessels bound to, or from, one State, be obliged to enter, clear, or pay Duties in another.

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Old 05-11-2009, 03:10 PM
 
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What?! You pay the tax where you bought the item. If you have it shipped to you, then you owe the tax based on where you receive it. If you buy it in one state and then bring it to your home state, and your home state has a higher tax rate, then you owe the difference.

So anything I buy for myself, husband or child that I plan on bringing home should be taxed?

I understand large items like cars, very expensive jewelry, but who's to say they won't go after smaller items?

Funny, because me and my husband are starting to look into where to move right now-and we are mostly thinking Massachusetts. And you guys all have it pretty good tax-wise compared to the 10.25% tax we currently pay on EVERYTHING.
 
Old 05-11-2009, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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So anything I buy for myself, husband or child that I plan on bringing home should be taxed?

I understand large items like cars, very expensive jewelry, but who's to say they won't go after smaller items?

Funny, because me and my husband are starting to look into where to move right now-and we are mostly thinking Massachusetts. And you guys all have it pretty good tax-wise compared to the 10.25% tax we currently pay on EVERYTHING.
The states go after the big ticket items because it's just not cost-effective to pursue it on routine purchases. Everyone keep in mind I'm just telling you what the laws are; I didn't write them. I spent 30 years in a state government job enforcing them, though, so I know a little bit about the subject. The more aggressive states do go after individuals, but all states that have a sales and use tax routinely audit and assess businesses. Many states exempt neccessities like groceries and medicines. There is a lot of talk about sales taxes being more a more regressive tax, since the rate is the same no matter how rich or how poor you are. IMO, if precautions are taken to exempt necessities, I'm not sure I wouldn't prefer a national sales tax over an income tax though. It would just be very difficult to enforce, since you have to rely on the vendors to collect it.
 
Old 05-11-2009, 07:28 PM
 
Location: The Shire !
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The Constitution

Article. I.
Section. 9.

No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State.
Oh man... where's the ROFL smiley ?

BOTH political parties have been shredding the Constitution for decades. You think anybody cares about the Constitution anymore ?

You must be one o' them terrorists the Demo-rats are talking about !
 
Old 05-12-2009, 02:16 AM
 
Location: Yucaipa, California
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Oh man... where's the ROFL smiley ?

BOTH political parties have been shredding the Constitution for decades. You think anybody cares about the Constitution anymore ?

You must be one o' them terrorists the Demo-rats are talking about !
I agree ! The politicians dont give a damn about the constitution. Our rights as us citizens are being taken away more & more & the Obama admin is quite all right with that. So was the bush admin. Read the patriot act.
 
Old 05-12-2009, 03:08 AM
 
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Default Sales Tax across borders

If you really want to see something scary, take a look at:

Streamlined Sales Tax Project

Yep - a bunch of states are getting together and use their collective might to grab sales taxes on cross-border sales.

It really does sound like a "taxation without representation" issue, now doesn't it?
 
Old 05-12-2009, 05:55 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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The Constitution does not deny states the right to impose taxes. And a sales tax is not "taxation without representation". If you are physically in a state and making a purchase, you are utilizing or have the potential to utilize the government services that taxes pay for (roads, police & fire protection, etc.) You can elect to make the purchase or not; your choice. And if you live in a state that imposes a sales and use tax, and are importing purchases from other jurisdictions, then you owe the use tax to your home state. States without a sales tax always use that as a selling point to lure buyers from surrounding states to come in and make purchases, but in reality, the use tax is triggered as soon as you bring that item back home. Very difficult to enforce (with individuals) but has always been the law.
 
Old 05-12-2009, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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IMHO - There are much better reasons to move from Texas to Massachusetts than just sales taxes. Civilization for one and great schools for another.

As janetvj said the tax laws are there but individual enforcement has been lax. For instance the NH state owned (socialism anyone) liquor stores supply discount booze to the rest of New England every fall starting before labor day and lasting to New Years. The rest of New England has been trying for years to figure a way to tax these sales. They have not been very successful.
 
Old 05-12-2009, 07:47 AM
 
Location: The Shire !
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...With credit card data available they can use the card companies to collect the taxes.
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Hold it !
Please cite the precident where any state has subpoenaed the credit card records of a non-resident citizen for the collection of sales tax.
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IMHO - There are much better reasons to move from Texas to Massachusetts than just sales taxes. Civilization for one and great schools for another.

As janetvj said the tax laws are there but individual enforcement has been lax. For instance the NH state owned (socialism anyone) liquor stores supply discount booze to the rest of New England every fall starting before labor day and lasting to New Years. The rest of New England has been trying for years to figure a way to tax these sales. They have not been very successful.
Still waiting on a link or a statement of where you found the precident where any state has subpoenaed anyone's credit card records for sales tax collection.

How did Texas enter into this discussion ?
Who's moving to Massachusetts ?

As for NH being "Socialist" for selling liquor, eighteen states do this. Only three states, In Louisiana, Missouri and Nevada, all alcoholic beverages can be sold practically anywhere, including drug stores and gas stations.

Don't like it ? Get active or vote the incumbents out and change the laws.

Ah but complaining and slacktivism is so much easier though

As far as the rest of New England trying to collect these taxes, its not gonna happen. Not as long as there are folks who are outraged by this behaviour.

Misdirection and omission are no way to make a point.
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