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I didn't bring up ammo as a solution - that was your suggestion, not mine. if that is not what you meant, please clarify.
Read this. Yeah, its not New Hampshire but this is from a discussion on another forum;
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This is fodder for major civil unrest. Watch for mass riots in LA should this come to pass. Long hot summers, no food, money or health care, and large concentrations of welfare recipients in a small geographic area. Things will boil over in a heartbeat.
Throw in a HUGE sense of entitlement from years of handouts and you have big 'ole pile of tinder. No doubt the aging hippies here remember the saying "Burn Baby, Burn !"
a key part of why California continues to fall behind is Proposition 13, the 1978 ballot initiative that capped the state's property tax rate.
the biggest beneficiaries of Prop. 13 are large companies and corporate landowners. Prop. 13 opened up loopholes for corporate landowners and shifted the tax burden to individual homeowners while dramatically reducing California's tax base.
For example, 30 years ago in San Francisco, commercial property owners contributed 59 percent of property tax revenues and residential property owners contributed 41 percent. Today, we see a virtual flip: commercial property owners contributed just 43 percent of property taxes in 2008 while residential property owners contributed 57 percent.
In NH - property tax rates continue to rise every year. We have no excuse for not taking care of the needy.
a key part of why California continues to fall behind is Proposition 13, the 1978 ballot initiative that capped the state's property tax rate.
the biggest beneficiaries of Prop. 13 are large companies and corporate landowners. Prop. 13 opened up loopholes for corporate landowners and shifted the tax burden to individual homeowners while dramatically reducing California's tax base.
For example, 30 years ago in San Francisco, commercial property owners contributed 59 percent of property tax revenues and residential property owners contributed 41 percent. Today, we see a virtual flip: commercial property owners contributed just 43 percent of property taxes in 2008 while residential property owners contributed 57 percent.
In NH - property tax rates continue to rise every year. We have no excuse for not taking care of the needy.
Right. I go to California often, mostly San Francisco. The number of homeless people on the street begging is amazing. Somehow I haven't seen the same problems in Nashua and Manchester....
<snip>We have no excuse for not taking care of the needy.
While I'm not so heartless as to say we should cancel all public assistance services, I'm all for tightening things up considerably.
"Transitional Assistance" as it is known in some places simply means you need to re-apply every couple of years.
Tranistional ? Perhaps for glaciers.
Six to twelve months is more than enough time for someone to get back on their feet. I also believe welfare recipients should be obligated to pay their benifactors back for the services they received.
Run it like a studen loan with a long term low interest loan program.
Either that or public service.
"Ass, gas or grass, nobody rides for free !" That's another one that was popular with the parents of all these liberal crybabies.
In NH - property tax rates continue to rise every year. We have no excuse for not taking care of the needy.
Long time residents are being forced out due to insane increases in property taxes. How can the average person who is starting out afford 5.5-7K per year in taxes?
I am not saying to that we should cut all local programs, but they need to become more efficient in order to not place an even greater burden on the taxpayer.
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I know-I heard that too. I heard Knytych is running again-I wonder if anyone else will run on the republican side? I wonder who will run on the democratic side if she does not run. It should be interesting.
Yes Knytych is running again. He's a decent guy, but I would like to see someone stronger. As for the dems.....I have not heard any names yet. I'm sure Buckley has someone in mind who is going to play "conservative democrat"in the election
Yes Knytych is running again. He's a decent guy, but I would like to see someone stronger. As for the dems.....I have not heard any names yet. I'm sure Buckley has someone in mind who is going to play "conservative democrat"in the election
You are right about Buckley. And yes- I agree- hopefully we will see someone stronger than Knytych step up to run.
A few comments:
I originally posted about Peggy Gilmour's response because since returning to NH from SoCal, I have received replies from NH reps which were refreshingly human, even showing gratitude to me for taking the time to get involved. My own rep's canned response is very much like those of CA politicians, the obligatory no details reply implying she is pushing her agenda with no consideration of any further explanation. Totally frustrating, considering the budget deficit and considering we are neighbors. Maybe I should invite her over for tea.
Seamusnh, you are right about the hoards of homeless in CA - and don't restrict that to just SF, there are homeless begging on many street corners, even in smaller towns, not just the freeway exit ramps.
And about Buckley - >shudder< saw him in a mini-debate a couple Sundays ago w/Sununu - how does someone who rants and rambles in that fashion earn a position of power?
It's a shame that in some cases they threw the baby out with the bathwater because of the way the ballot initiatives were crafted. For example, Prop 1A would have raised $16 billion in taxes over four years, but also required CA to save more money in surplus years in a rainy day fund for use when lean times hit again. Saving more money in good years is an idea that most economists recognize as wise...but they should have made that a stand-alone initiative, not tied it to increasing taxes.
Right. I go to California often, mostly San Francisco. The number of homeless people on the street begging is amazing. Somehow I haven't seen the same problems in Nashua and Manchester....
San Francisco city "management," due to their incredible compassion (and generous willingness to spend other peoples' money), has made the city very attractive to the homeless. Or as some people call some of them, the bums.
(BTW, that's a term I've heard from liberals, not the cold hearted conservative wing of the R party.)
When you make a place attractive to certain clientele, guess what? They show up!
And when the mayor declares the city is a "haven" from federal law, guess what? Lawbreakers show up!
And then guess what? A revenue problem develops. But there is no spending problem, more is better.
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Originally Posted by Mrtwigg
While I'm not so heartless as to say we should cancel all public assistance services, I'm all for tightening things up considerably.
"Transitional Assistance" as it is known in some places simply means you need to re-apply every couple of years.
Tranistional ? Perhaps for glaciers.
Six to twelve months is more than enough time for someone to get back on their feet. I also believe welfare recipients should be obligated to pay their benifactors back for the services they received.
Run it like a studen loan with a long term low interest loan program.
Either that or public service.
"Ass, gas or grass, nobody rides for free !" That's another one that was popular with the parents of all these liberal crybabies.
Ye reap what ye sow.
Interesting concept. Think it will go far in a D-dominated ledge? hahahahahaha
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I heard Knytych is running again-I wonder if anyone else will run on the republican side? I wonder who will run on the democratic side if she does not run. It should be interesting.
