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Gay marriage undermines nothing and destroys no families. No doubt it offends your religion. Well tough bungies. Not everybody believes what you believe or is required to live their lives according to your holy book or whatever.
NH is not and has never been a bible thumping state. It may have been more socially conservative in the past but it has always had a more libertarian ethic to its politics than many other states.
Remember your words in say about six years when the pedophiles use they gay marriage gateway to get their agendas passed.
Remember your words in say about six years when the pedophiles use they gay marriage gateway to get their agendas passed.
the majority of pedophiles are heterosexual so the analogy is a non-sequitur
Using the fixated-regressed distinction, Groth and Birnbaum (1978) studied 175 adult males who were convicted in Massachusetts of sexual assault against a child. None of the men had an exclusively homosexual adult sexual orientation. 83 (47%) were classified as "fixated;" 70 others (40%) were classified as regressed adult heterosexuals; the remaining 22 (13%) were classified as regressed adult bisexuals. Of the last group, Groth and Birnbaum observed that "in their adult relationships they engaged in sex on occasion with men as well as with women. However, in no case did this attraction to men exceed their preference for women....There were no men who were primarily sexually attracted to other adult males..." (p.180).
Groth, A.N., & Birnbaum, H.J. (1978). Adult sexual orientation and attraction to underage persons. Archives of Sexual Behavior, 7 (3), 175-181.
Remember your words in say about six years when the pedophiles use they gay marriage gateway to get their agendas passed.
You're seriously using that as an argument? What about brothers and sisters marrying each other? And people marrying dogs? And God destroying the country?
Gay marriage aside for now.......Governor Lynch has broken his word. It's very destructive of the public trust to see behavior like this. Lynch made it quite clear he was against gay marriage during his debate with Kenney last year. He can't be trusted on anything. No matter what your political party is....this man's word is worthless. As for "gay marriage" there is, nor can there be any such thing. Oh, you can call it marriage, but it is no such thing. Two men, or two women together is just that, nothing more. No children can come from it. It's barren, and no future society comes from the union. It's a biologial dead-end. I'm in no way offended by gays, and wish them all the best, but I respect reality too much to ever think this "play-house" situation is to be taken in a serious manner. Someday the West will come to its senses, or not.....until then we have this.
Two men, or two women together is just that, nothing more. No children can come from it. It's barren, and no future society comes from the union. It's a biologial dead-end.
and couples who do not want babies, are too old, or are infertile?
You're seriously using that as an argument? What about brothers and sisters marrying each other? And people marrying dogs? And God destroying the country?
Seriously. Lighten up man. It's not a big deal.
Mmm tell me that when some liberal supreme court justice gives your ten year old niece the "right" to marry that nice pervert, there are already states where beastily is legal. NAMBL is a ardent supporter of gay marriage, and just as an aside this bill came to pass largely through out of state interests.. hardly a home grown issue. pushed by national gay lobbyists with the very notion of allowing the people of this state having a say quickly axed..mmm wonder why?
and couples who do not want babies, are too old, or are infertile?
You're not serious, really ? If one is infertile, or whatever, that does not change the fact that ONLY men & women together can carry the future between them biologically. My point is that it's important to respect reality, and to call "real" things what they are. Two men & two women together are something else.....what they are NOT are the building blocks of the future of the species. I'm all for gay people having full legal protection.....but this artifical drive to equalize two different things is politcal, and has nothing to do with the reality of the situation. It's like something out of the book "1984".
honestly, you guys have to give up on this 'gay marriage now - marriage to 9 year olds later'. No matter what the sexual age of consent is in a state, a 9 year old CANNOT enter into a legal contract. Marriage is a legal contract, sometimes with religious undertones. Anything between a pedophile and any child is NOT the same as activity between two CONSENTING ADULTS. Activities with sheep are NOT the same as TWO CONSENTING ADULTS. Activities between Mildred and dead Fred are not two CONSENTING adults. if you're dead, you can't give consent. If you're a child, you aren't deemed legally responsible enough to give legal consent and you certainly aren't 'adult'. A sheep is not a consenting adult. These arguments, and yes I realize you've only gotten to the pedophilia argument so far- but the rest of it is just around the corner since it already was before- are straw targets because they do not fit the definitions and you know it. You are just trying to inflame the situation because you don't like two consenting adults being allowed the same legal status as two other consenting adults.
And btw: there are churches who will perform gay marriages, and there are gays who have for years been holding ceremonies (they just aren't legally recognized and obviously don't get the tax break yet do it anyway) and of course there are gays who are against it just as there are straights who don't believe in marriage either.
These arguments just don't hold. Let them go and try something else.
honestly, you guys have to give up on this 'gay marriage now - marriage to 9 year olds later'. No matter what the sexual age of consent is in a state, a 9 year old CANNOT enter into a legal contract. Marriage is a legal contract, sometimes with religious undertones. Anything between a pedophile and any child is NOT the same as activity between two CONSENTING ADULTS. Activities with sheep are NOT the same as TWO CONSENTING ADULTS. Activities between Mildred and dead Fred are not two CONSENTING adults. if you're dead, you can't give consent. If you're a child, you aren't deemed legally responsible enough to give legal consent and you certainly aren't 'adult'. A sheep is not a consenting adult. These arguments, and yes I realize you've only gotten to the pedophilia argument so far- but the rest of it is just around the corner since it already was before- are straw targets because they do not fit the definitions and you know it. You are just trying to inflame the situation because you don't like two consenting adults being allowed the same legal status as two other consenting adults.
And btw: there are churches who will perform gay marriages, and there are gays who have for years been holding ceremonies (they just aren't legally recognized and obviously don't get the tax break yet do it anyway) and of course there are gays who are against it just as there are straights who don't believe in marriage either.
These arguments just don't hold. Let them go and try something else.
Two cousins are consenting adults, a brother and sister are consenting adults, a son and mother are consenting adults, why then should they be denied marriage..yet they are..for now anyway. Wheres the equality?
Children are not adults and thus cannot give consent..for now, yet your teen child can already get an abortion without your consent, we do have at least one state that states a 14 year old can be married by their own consent, yes those ages will get lower, and those who push for those lower ages are gleeful about this bill , just another step down in societal decay..yep more perversion and decadence legalized and lauded as a good thing, then we will sit back and wonder like we have in the past why society is such a mess, too blind to see that it was us that made it that way.
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