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I wish that they'd get some funding to raze more vacant, dilapidated buildings. I've heard people complain about the acres of parking lots and how they isolate the waterfront from the rest of the city. That seems like a good idea to me.
Cleaning up North Camden, north of the Ben, is a reasonable goal. There are some businesses in place, the prison site will eventually be redeveloped, there's already quite a bit of open ground and Rutgers is working with the community to clean up.
They still haven't made Camden safe enough, or user-friendly enough. My niece and I ended up in a very scary situation when walking back to our car when we left a concert early at the Tweeter Center (it's not called that now, but I can't keep track of all the name changes). There was NO security at all, we had to walk past boarded up abandoned buildings (yes, we were at an "official" Tweeter Center overflow lot), and were saved from a terrifying confrontation with a man who jumped out of a car and started running up behind us only by the chance occurance of a police officer turning a corner at just the right time. Another time I tried to take visitors to the Battleship NJ, turned down the wrong street due to poor signage and ended up in a horrible part of town for several blocks before we found our way back. I wouldn't go to any of their "attractions" again without a police escort...
Sad you are that sheltered. Camden isn't what I would call a safe place but during the day it is fine. Get over yourself.
Camden is again the murder capital of the US....more murders than any other city in the US based upon population.....you would have us believe that all the murders occured at night ?
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The Camden Waterfront attractions and the new luxury apartments look amazing. There is real progress being made in Camden. Look forward to seeing the continued renewal of this great city.
New Jersey should do to Camden what the Germans did to Rotterdam and Warsaw: Bomb it from the air and/or raze it to the ground.
I would say that certain cities in NJ have potential in the distant future. Camden is not one of them. Another poster was spot-on when he said that Camden will never experience the type of outgrowth from Philadelphia that Jersey City, Hoboken, and Hudson County experience from New York City.
Camden is again the capital of the US....more than any other city in the US based upon population.....you would have us believe that all the occured at night ?
Mod cut Camden is improving. They have a better waterfront than Philly. They have the aquarium, a minor league baseball park, USS NJ, Tweeter Center, and new condos and restaurants.
Philly on has box stores, nuisance bars and $tripclubs.
I believe the Camden rate is down.
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Mod cut Camden is improving. They have a better waterfront than Philly. They have the aquarium, a minor league baseball park, USS NJ, Tweeter Center, and new condos and restaurants.
Philly on has box stores, nuisance bars and $tripclubs.
I believe the Camden rate is down.
Within the last few months Camden was again announced as the murder capital of the US based upon population.......who is going to risk their life or the safety of their family to see a minor league baseball game when they can dive a few miles up the road to Trenton and see the same thing without having to wear a helmet and body armor ?
There was an article in the past few years on the difficulties in gentrifing New Jersey's cities. Politics and the cities small sizes are the stated reasons. Like one previous post stated, Hoboken was gentrified because it was a place outside just Manhatten with cheaper rent. That is also why Jersey City is becoming gentrified (in many areas). On the other hand, other NJ cities have little to stimulate their gentrification process. New Jersey is a city dominated by buissness in Philly and NYC, or its nicer suburbs. NOT Paterson, Trenton or Camden. Why would someone want to move there when the suburbs are so much nicer? There is also no money or buissness in those cities. There is simply nothing there and nothing to invite people back in. Camden will not become Hoboken, because like the other poster said Philly's rents are still much better than NYC's. The only way people MAY wish to gentrify Camden is if Philly rents and costs of living go through the roof. Then, maybe people would look to Camden for a more affordable home.
who is going to risk their life or the safety of their family to see a minor league baseball game when they can dive a few miles up the road to Trenton and see the same thing without having to wear a helmet and body armor ?
I go with my family to Riversharks games all the time and never have felt unsafe. The Camden Waterfront is a truly beautiful place. The attendance and following of the team is also rather large for a minor league team of a city of less than 100,000 residents.
The crime rate is definetly down. The ranking was based on 2008 numbers. The 2009 numbers were down 40%.
Camden murders down 40% in 2009, leading N.J. decline | Philadelphia Inquirer | 12/30/2009 (http://www.philly.com/philly/news/homepage/20091230_Camden_murders_down_40__in_2009__leading_ N_J__decline.html - broken link)
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