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Old 07-23-2010, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Hudson County, NJ
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That's definitely what I'm saying. I find your disgust digusting. Being disgusted by sex suggests other problems to me. Disturbed by observing someone having sex? First off, what if someone is disturbed by the fact that they can't have sex in public. Should they have to be disturbed because some family is uncomfortable with sex? We have a serious problem when people are disturbed or disgusted by sex, including if they're disturbed or disgusted by the thought or sight of other people having sex. Not that that's news, but it's ridiculous. We could change society to make it not so ridiculous. It wouldn't happen overnight, but it's worth doing.

1 - All types of people have sex. Yes I think 2 400lb people having sex is pretty disgusting and not what I want to see. I don't care if its natural. Lots of things are natural that I don't want to see others do.

2 - Kids are having sex at WAY to young of an age, yielding a bunch of other problems. They don't need to be any more subjected to it.

3 - We're not animals and monkeys. I can't speak for you though. Take your raw, unsophisticated actions elsewhere. You're so classy.
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:54 AM
 
Location: NJT 14C
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1 - All types of people have sex. Yes I think 2 400lb people having sex is pretty disgusting and not what I want to see. I don't care if its natural. Lots of things are natural that I don't want to see others do.

2 - Kids are having sex at WAY to young of an age, yielding a bunch of other problems. They don't need to be any more subjected to it.

3 - We're not animals and monkeys. I can't speak for you though. Take your raw, unsophisticated actions elsewhere. You're so classy.
(1) We should make laws based on "what you want to see"? Why you? Or are you in favor of mob rule or something? If the mob doesn't want to see it, then there should be a law against it? If you're not a mob rule advocate (and at any rate if you are, we'd really need surveys to establish that the mob doesn't want to see something, not just your confession), and you're not megalomaniacal, what if I don't want to see someone who looks like you in public. Should I be able to make laws prohibiting you from being in public?

(2) That's not a new phenomenon, and I don't at all agree with your attitude on it. I think your stance on it is a bad idea.

(3) Take a biology course. At least per standard biological classifications, we're most definitely animals. Maybe you have a different taxonomy that you could share the reasoning for . . . I'd be interested in hearing that. And "oy vey" over the "class" concerns.
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Savannah GA/Lk Hopatcong NJ
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I'd venture to guess if you polled the question of sex in public the nays would far out number the yays, realizing of course the human race has some odd balls that walk in our midst

the analogies made are not even on the same page...sex in public vs seeing someone eat ice cream in public is like comparing a brussel sprout to an orange
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Old 07-23-2010, 10:05 AM
 
Location: NJT 14C
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I'd venture to guess if you polled the question of sex in public the nays would far out number the yays, realizing of course the human race has some odd balls that walk in our midst
Maybe, but (1) I don't count speculation as sufficient and (2) I'm not in favor of mob rule anyway.
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the analogies made are not even on the same page...sex in public vs seeing someone eat ice cream in public is like comparing a brussel sprout to an orange
What no one is saying is what the differences are--basically, the objective differences, not the subjective, attitudinal differences, that justify the illegality of the one over the other.

I'm not at all saying that subjectively, most folks are going to look at them similarly. That's because of our ridiculous attitudes about sex. Those attitudes are the problem. Objectively, they're simply two different activities that folks could do that you could choose to pay attention to or not. You have the reaction you do to sex because of societal norms that have been basically programmed into you. We need to do some reprogramming--at least enough that we're not penalizing other folks legislatively (or worse--ending up with cops killing them and having folks say "Right on!") for doing things that you do not care for. They probably don't care for some things that you do, either.
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Old 07-23-2010, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Hudson County, NJ
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Technically, you're right, we are animals, althought rational animals gifted with (usually)brilliant minds.

I think you just want to argue against "norms". I suspect as you grow older and more senile you'll be defecating on that strip of grass that run parallel to the streets like a dog and think there is nothing wrong with it, you can do what you want, norms are just some idea created by modern man.

Do you eat your food with a fork, or is that too normal? Maybe you just want to use your hands to shovel food in like some other animals do.
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Old 07-23-2010, 10:29 AM
 
Location: NJT 14C
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Technically, you're right, we are animals, althought rational animals gifted with (usually)brilliant minds.

I think you just want to argue against "norms". I suspect as you grow older and more senile you'll be defecating on that strip of grass that run parallel to the streets like a dog and think there is nothing wrong with it, you can do what you want, norms are just some idea created by modern man.

Do you eat your food with a fork, or is that too normal? Maybe you just want to use your hands to shovel food in like some other animals do.
I'm neither a conformist nor an anti-conformist, the latter being simply one who does the opposite just to do the opposite.

That is a simpler, strawman-like way to characterize it, though, so one doesn't have to bother thinking about this stuff too much. But really, if you're going to take a route like that, why not make it even easier on yourself and just say, "You're nuts", or "You're full of crap" or something like that? I don't mind (seriously).
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Old 07-23-2010, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Hudson County, NJ
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I kind of do thnk you're nuts. I think you're living in a porno. Just know that if your dream came true, that not everyone having sex in public would be a 21 year old hot and fit blonde.

The majority of people that would take advantage of your ideal world, are probably likely to be overweight and old.

Then, what about the under 18 year olds getting it on. Now you're going to jail for looking at minors.
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Old 07-23-2010, 11:13 AM
 
Location: NJT 14C
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I kind of do thnk you're nuts. I think you're living in a porno. Just know that if your dream came true, that not everyone having sex in public would be a 21 year old hot and fit blonde.

The majority of people that would take advantage of your ideal world, are probably likely to be overweight and old.

Then, what about the under 18 year olds getting it on. Now you're going to jail for looking at minors.
"There will come a time when you won't even be ashamed if you are fat . . . There will come a time when you can even take your clothes off when you dance." -- Frank Zappa
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Old 07-23-2010, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Savannah GA/Lk Hopatcong NJ
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"There will come a time when you won't even be ashamed if you are fat . . . There will come a time when you can even take your clothes off when you dance." -- Frank Zappa
LOL...how much acid had Zappa dropped when he made that statement
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Old 07-23-2010, 12:22 PM
 
Location: 32°19'03.7"N 106°43'55.9"W
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Maybe "LuckoftheDraw" we could have designated "whamming stations" cordoned off for every new public works endeavor, say, 100 square feet for every 5000 square feet built? We could install a curtain around the area.

The entire premise of this thread is getting obfuscated by an absurd notion that sexuality should be publicly allowed.
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