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The pitfall is the price you pay for that faster commute. $635 a month for the discounted monthly ticket. Compare to $299 NJ Transit fare from Little Silver to Newark Penn (other towns vary slightly) and $84 for a 40-trip PATH fare. If your company particiates in Wage Works yiu can get some $$$ off on the NJ Transit ticket.
Also, you have to check the FEMA maps to see if flood insurance is required where you live in shore areas.
Do you know people who commute daily by Seastreak? Aside from the cost, do they find it better than taking the train logistically speaking?
Nonsense. Obama never ran on that and voters certainly didn't want that.
Wages are stagnant because labor has no power, no voice. The power structure wants it that way and saw to it.
The corporate execs wants low wages so as to keep corporate profits up along with stock prices and their salaries. It just turns out that the pols (including Obama, unfortunately) could never turn against the people who put them in power--the corporate overlords.
Salary and wages are rising in areas of low competition, ie engineering, healthcare, biotechnology. Unfortunately, Christie has no interest in bringing those businesses to Jersey but supporting legacy industries of NJ and the power structure that persists by repairing highways, tax you and raise toll fares.
We live in the 21st century, you won't see your wages rise as an HVAC repairman, teachers, construction worker or cement mixer or a secretary when most everyone in NJ is doing the same thing. Unfortunately, Jersey's economy is not diversified and highly sensitive to deep cyclical industries. Basically, when it gets good it's good, when it gets bad it's alot worse here than other states.
I said the voters got what they wanted, not what the deserved. Same for the country...wages are stagnant because that's what the voters wanted...equality and low growth. Obama ran on that platform and now we have it. The voters should be super happy they got what the wanted. I don't understand the complaining. You got stagnant wage growth just like you voted for. Very strange these complaints from NJ residents. I would expect more praise "we got the high taxes we voted for, we got the low growth economy we voted for, we got less opportunity that we voted for!!!"
There is some truth to this, as many people in NJ under the poverty line have improved their standard of living in the past 7 years. Wages are rising but only for those at the minimum wage line. Retailers and restaurants have raised wages 30-50% this past year. The poor have benefited from Obama at the expense of taking a slice of the middle class pie and they now all collectively exist in a general lower middle class demographic now.
NJ is generally divided into 2 demographic groups. Professionals who live in NJ and commute to NYC and people who live in NJ and work in NJ. The loudest complaints come from the latter. NYC commuters generally love Jersey, as it's still much more affordable than living in Manhattan, Long Island or CT and is a fast commute.
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There is some truth to this, as many people in NJ under the poverty line have improved their standard of living in the past 7 years. Wages are rising but only for those at the minimum wage line. Retailers and restaurants have raised wages 30-50% this past year. The poor have benefited from Obama at the expense of taking a slice of the middle class pie and they now all collectively exist in a general lower middle class demographic now.
NJ is generally divided into 2 demographic groups. Professionals who live in NJ and commute to NYC and people who live in NJ and work in NJ. The loudest complaints come from the latter. NYC commuters generally love Jersey, as it's still much more affordable than living in Manhattan, Long Island or CT and is a fast commute.
You raise some interesting points. I live in NJ, but work in Manhattan (no kids, no wife...so lucky) so I don't really have a problem. But, the truth is NJ is exactly what the voters wanted, a bloated bureacracy, with a HUGE pension liability. The voters wanted that and they got...I guess they just thought someone else would pay for it. Reality can hurt when it finally sets in, "I wanted the huge pension, I just thought they would make only the wealthy pay for it."
I work in Manhattan and have been hearing recently all these voters complain about the homeless. They're everywhere now. But, I laugh because they voted for it. This is De Blasio's idea of "fair". I keep hoping he will run for President. The voters in this country deserve him. Would be amazing for the US to have him.
NJ is generally divided into 2 demographic groups. Professionals who live in NJ and commute to NYC and people who live in NJ and work in NJ. The loudest complaints come from the latter. NYC commuters generally love Jersey, as it's still much more affordable than living in Manhattan, Long Island or CT and is a fast commute.
I live in NJ and work in NJ. I have a 10 minute commute to work. You won't hear me complaining.
You raise some interesting points. I live in NJ, but work in Manhattan (no kids, no wife...so lucky) so I don't really have a problem. But, the truth is NJ is exactly what the voters wanted, a bloated bureacracy, with a HUGE pension liability. The voters wanted that and they got...I guess they just thought someone else would pay for it. Reality can hurt when it finally sets in, "I wanted the huge pension, I just thought they would make only the wealthy pay for it."
I work in Manhattan and have been hearing recently all these voters complain about the homeless. They're everywhere now. But, I laugh because they voted for it. This is De Blasio's idea of "fair". I keep hoping he will run for President. The voters in this country deserve him. Would be amazing for the US to have him.
That is true. I've seen many Obama and DiBlasio supporters talk their socialist ideology in the past to help the "less fortunate", level the playing field for all, but to see their own standards of living drop and now want them booted. You do get what you vote for.
The "smarties", upper middle and upper class are generally two steps ahead, and have hedged regulation and politics. Therefore, the funding is taken from the status quo middle class.
It’s true. Due to the recent recession many people have suffered a lot. The housing prices have gone up and the jobs don’t pay much to afford a decent living. And it’s not about NJ, it’s much worse in many other areas.
It’s true. Due to the recent recession many people have suffered a lot. The housing prices have gone up and the jobs don’t pay much to afford a decent living. And it’s not about NJ, it’s much worse in many other areas.
Well, it's called gentrification. It's happened in the 5 boroughs, native New Yorkers have had no choice but to move to more affordable areas. It's the well to do, college educationed 6-7 figure income professionals who live in NJ and commute to NYC or live in NYC and work in NYC who are jacking up prices, but not only them, but the people from Brooklyn, Staten Island and Queens who are finding NJ to be a cheaper option to the bloated costs of living in NYC which is ironic, because they aren't that well to do either.
But it doesn't seem like gentrification this time in NJ because the ones being kicked out are also white. Basically what's happening past 10 years is rotation of what social class people *believe* they are in, and what class they actually are in.
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