So is American Dream still going on, or have we woken up yet? I am talking the Mall (Passaic: real estate, 2015)
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1) Deregulate the casino industry
2) Sell the land to a private casino developer
3) Step the eff out of the way, and let the private sector do what it does best - build the crap out of the site and make a ton of gorgeous green money while creating thousands of jobs.
No bonds, no public financing, no taxpayer rape, just get the heck out of the way, and leave it to Capitalism.
And I don't want to hear the obstructionist envirofascists wax on about this smelly swamp located 10 miles from Manhattan. We don't need malodorous bogs of rotting vegetation in this area. There is plenty of useless land for that. The area around NY City should be developed, developed, developed. When we can co longer go out, we should go up.
Sell the damned land to someone who can, using all their own money, make a success out of this. And that means the government needs to get completely out of the way, both financially and legally. Don't regulate it, don't monitor it, don't control it. Get out of the way.
Just pave over the entire planet?????
"Don't regulate it, don't monitor it, don't control it. Get out of the way."
This way the "developer" can rampantly pollute things, bypass construction regulations, suck up a bunch of money. Then 20 yrs later, after the builder's declared bankruptcy and retired someplace with there buildings, and whatever they build is falling apart due to using substandard materials, and there is a cancer cluster.
Then the very people that hollered "less govt regulation" can say, "Our corrupt politicians did this. Why did they allow this to happen. Don't use my tax dollars to fix this!!!"
"obstructionist envirofascists" Do you have a book of creative insults?
"Don't regulate it, don't monitor it, don't control it. Get out of the way."
This way the "developer" can rampantly pollute things, bypass construction regulations, suck up a bunch of money. Then 20 yrs later, after the builder's declared bankruptcy and retired someplace with there buildings, and whatever they build is falling apart due to using substandard materials, and there is a cancer cluster.
Then the very people that hollered "less govt regulation" can say, "Our corrupt politicians did this. Why did they allow this to happen. Don't use my tax dollars to fix this!!!"
"obstructionist envirofascists" Do you have a book of creative insults?
Trust the "invisible hand." The free market will solve everything. Pollution, poor planning, degradation, will all just...work themselves out...
Lol did not realize that was the case. Have developers not read any of the "malls are dying" reports. Can't people in that area just drive to Menlo Park or Woodbridge?
I know,,, people already do and have enough retail outlets everywhere.
From what I read in the news the plan was to light up this new one with about as much lighting as downtown Las Vegas so humans are attracted as they drive down the highways, GSP, US9 NJ 35 etc.
That's just so wrong and primitive and a waste of utilities, energy, everything else. Ugh.
If these people want to play in the dirt on THEIR DIME that's one thing. on our collective tax money is another.
"Don't regulate it, don't monitor it, don't control it. Get out of the way."
This way the "developer" can rampantly pollute things, bypass construction regulations, suck up a bunch of money. Then 20 yrs later, after the builder's declared bankruptcy and retired someplace with there buildings, and whatever they build is falling apart due to using substandard materials, and there is a cancer cluster.
Then the very people that hollered "less govt regulation" can say, "Our corrupt politicians did this. Why did they allow this to happen. Don't use my tax dollars to fix this!!!"
"obstructionist envirofascists" Do you have a book of creative insults?
90% of America is undeveloped. We don't need to protect swamps 10 miles from Manhattan. There are plenty of other swamps in the middle of nowhere in the 90% of undeveloped America that can act as bio support for the rest of the country. The Meadowlands can be paved over and developed, it would be no problem environmentally.
And then in 40 years, we can knock it all down and start all over again, creating new money and new jobs. Circle of life.
We don't have to preserve rotting vegetation 10 miles from Manhattan and in the middle of a megalopolis. There are sensible remote areas that can remain undisturbed. The cities are for development.
There is such a thing as too much environmental sensitivity.
Are there any wetlands left in the immediate area that is similar to the Meadowlands?
90% of America is undeveloped. We don't need to protect swamps 10 miles from Manhattan. There are plenty of other swamps in the middle of nowhere in the 90% of undeveloped America that can act as bio support for the rest of the country. The Meadowlands can be paved over and developed, it would be no problem environmentally.
And then in 40 years, we can knock it all down and start all over again, creating new money and new jobs. Circle of life.
90%? Do you have source? What about Coastal regions? What is the development there especially along the Northeast coast? I bet it is much less.
Actually I was wrong, 97% of the land is undeveloped. And I don't care to carve out little regions to alter reality to encourage debate. The reality is clear: most of the United States is empty land. The swamps and preservation efforts should be concentrated there. I see no reason to tolerate obstructionism and envirostonewalling every time somebody wants to build something and create jobs and wealth and a better life for human beings in a densely populated area. We can have a few parks so the miserable city dwellers can contemplate the appearance of a rock or tree. But beyond that, no large scale obstructionism should be tolerated. The Meadowlands? Sell it all to private interests. Let them figure out how and what to build based on Capitalistic wealth generation. Fill in the smelly swamps and build hotels, conference centers, apartments, amusement parks, casinos, golf courses. Build, build, and keep building. And when you run out of land, the first buildings will be ready for demolition and new purposes, all the while generating money, jobs, wealth, and fun.
If someone needs a shot of nature, it's a 30 minute ride. But near Manhattan, I don't want to see anything but improvements. Concrete, steel, lights, color, sound, wonderful human activity, driven by Capitalistic imagination. That's what we do with the Meadowlands.
All the way down the Jersey Coast there's wetlands like the Meadowlands.
Absolutely. Someone to needs to take a ride. Swamps aplenty. We can even build more of those if we decide we need them.
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