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Old 08-12-2016, 09:42 PM
 
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You know, if you don't like this country so much, a: get involved in politics and change it to something you prefer. B: Leave
"As for adopting the ways of the State has provided for remedying the evil, I know not of such ways. They take too much time, and a man's life will be gone.Note I have other affairs to attend to. I came into this world, not chiefly to make this a good place to live in, but to live in it, be it good or bad. A man has not everything to do, but something; and because he cannot do everything, it is not necessary that he should be petitioning the Governor or the Legislature any more than it is theirs to petition me; and if they should not hear my petition, what should I do then?" -- Henry David Thoreau, "Resistance to Civil Government", 1849.
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Old 08-13-2016, 12:20 AM
 
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All the way down the Jersey Coast there's wetlands like the Meadowlands.
hmmmm, if you check the maps, it seems there is towns, and roads, board walks and houses built up all the way from Perth Amboy to Seaside Heights. I have driven south of Seaside to AC, and I see these large cranberry pools, and then AC south the Cape May is all beaches, boardwalks, and quaint little towns.
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Old 08-13-2016, 12:32 AM
 
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https://www.westernwatersheds.org/wa...r/article6.htm


Actually I was wrong, 97% of the land is undeveloped. And I don't care to carve out little regions to alter reality to encourage debate. The reality is clear: most of the United States is empty land. The swamps and preservation efforts should be concentrated there. I see no reason to tolerate obstructionism and envirostonewalling every time somebody wants to build something and create jobs and wealth and a better life for human beings in a densely populated area. We can have a few parks so the miserable city dwellers can contemplate the appearance of a rock or tree. But beyond that, no large scale obstructionism should be tolerated. The Meadowlands? Sell it all to private interests. Let them figure out how and what to build based on Capitalistic wealth generation. Fill in the smelly swamps and build hotels, conference centers, apartments, amusement parks, casinos, golf courses. Build, build, and keep building. And when you run out of land, the first buildings will be ready for demolition and new purposes, all the while generating money, jobs, wealth, and fun.


If someone needs a shot of nature, it's a 30 minute ride. But near Manhattan, I don't want to see anything but improvements. Concrete, steel, lights, color, sound, wonderful human activity, driven by Capitalistic imagination. That's what we do with the Meadowlands.
The fact that there is so much un-used land should mean any Capitalistic wealth generation can easily take place elsewhere. It would probably benefit people who could really use it. What will you put in the Meadowlands if you dredge it out? Another mall? Oh wait they are trying that.

The Meadowlands is a unique eco-system. Northern NJ, New York Metro has none of this particular eco-system left. Just because Manhattan is close by is no reason to get rid of it.
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Old 08-13-2016, 06:34 AM
 
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Default doesn't seem to stop Trump, he defaults on casinos, he builds golf courses, WTF?????
that is a part of bankruptcy. its not really a legitimate attack but it works on people that dont really know how businesses work. nobody has to loan him money or sell him products. if they fear a future default, they are free to not do business with him.
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Old 08-13-2016, 06:35 AM
 
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The fact that there is so much un-used land should mean any Capitalistic wealth generation can easily take place elsewhere. It would probably benefit people who could really use it. What will you put in the Meadowlands if you dredge it out? Another mall? Oh wait they are trying that.

The Meadowlands is a unique eco-system. Northern NJ, New York Metro has none of this particular eco-system left. Just because Manhattan is close by is no reason to get rid of it.
why is that your problem? if they want to build in the meadowlands, then let them. the eco system there is of no importance. its unique, woopty doo. that means nothing.
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Old 08-13-2016, 08:45 AM
 
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why is that your problem? if they want to build in the meadowlands, then let them. the eco system there is of no importance. its unique, woopty doo. that means nothing.
Then why don't they build it in your backyard? It's of no importance, it's probably not unique, would provide local jobs. So what if the noise and pollution bother you, "woopty doo".
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Old 08-13-2016, 02:25 PM
 
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why is that your problem? if they want to build in the meadowlands, then let them. the eco system there is of no importance. its unique, woopty doo. that means nothing.
Then why not build on central park, or fill in the East River too. Heck, south Shore of Long Island has all those barrier Islands, and the space between which I admit are like the Meadowlands (but in NY). Why not just pave that all over?

Our issue is not that we dont have enough space within the metro area.

But we are going off topic here. This thread is about American Dream.
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Old 08-13-2016, 05:38 PM
 
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hmmmm, if you check the maps, it seems there is towns, and roads, board walks and houses built up all the way from Perth Amboy to Seaside Heights. I have driven south of Seaside to AC, and I see these large cranberry pools, and then AC south the Cape May is all beaches, boardwalks, and quaint little towns.
Between the barrier islands and the mainland there's a lot of wetlands; some of it is open water, but much of it is swampy like the meadowlands.
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Old 08-14-2016, 07:39 PM
 
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Then why don't they build it in your backyard? It's of no importance, it's probably not unique, would provide local jobs. So what if the noise and pollution bother you, "woopty doo".
how is my backyard relevant in this discussion?
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Old 08-14-2016, 07:40 PM
 
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Then why not build on central park, or fill in the East River too. Heck, south Shore of Long Island has all those barrier Islands, and the space between which I admit are like the Meadowlands (but in NY). Why not just pave that all over?

Our issue is not that we dont have enough space within the metro area.

But we are going off topic here. This thread is about American Dream.
why are you asking me that? has anyone purchased those properties with an intention to pave it over? is changing the subject something you guys are doing because you cant speak directly about developing the meadowlands area?
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