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It is not a matter of having money - it is a matter of teaching our children values. Open your eyes Bobkovacs.
My eyes are open just fine, thanks. You're the one who admitted that you can't find what you're looking for, and I'm willing to bet that you're not looking in the right places. Care to share with us some of the towns that you're looking in?
I think these neighberhood's still do exist. You just have to look for them. I understand exactly what your saying. I remember when i was growing up my mom used to tell me " go out and play" and we where outside playing with friends with no worries. Today everyone is locked inside on the computer or video games, or running them to eight different events to keep them busy or off the street. I think Mayberry is what we should be looking for. If you find it tell me.
I have a soon to be 13 year old son, to who I remind of the days of when I was young and we didn't have our parents chauffering us around from one activity to another, we walked to each other's homes, played outside all day and we were told to be home before dark w/o having to worry anything in the world except having a good time. Today's kids is true, they are pampered too much, with all the gadgets they have they're not interested in socially oriented activities. Personally, I refuse to buy my son any video games, There's not a tv in his room, I tell him his bedroom is for sleeping at night, I don't want him to lock himself in there and no interact w/ mom & dad or to be outside playing. He doesn't have a his own cell phone, no personal computer either, if he's going to be using the pc for any homework related stuff, he's to do so at specific hours when mom or dad are home and if he's going to "talk" to his friends, he's to do it from the regular phone line, not using IM's. Also, when he goes and visits his friends, he's to walk or use his bike, and when he's to return home, I've advised his friends parents not to drop him off, he's to use his own 2 legs. anyhow, that's my 2 cents worth.
What a ridiculous post! So us so called "po working class folk" who live out in the country are friendlier than you self proclaimed rich people? And we should be avoided at any cost because we just might bake you a pie? Wow! I think that tornado did some damage to your brain!
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Originally Posted by BobKovacs
My eyes are open just fine, thanks. You're the one who admitted that you can't find what you're looking for, and I'm willing to bet that you're not looking in the right places. Care to share with us some of the towns that you're looking in?
I grew up in South Brunswick. It used to be apple pie here in South Brunswick which is a wealthy area now. I moved away for 10 + years (out of state - Husbands work) I came back and am currently working in Middlesex county so I have checked the areas in this vacinity first of course (including South Brunswick.) I just began to search South Jersey. One responder recommended Metuchin which I will look into as well.
I am just beginning my search which places my son as the priority. (That's a little different than some people around here - I see parents placing their needs first) That is why I am asking. Middlesex County is not what I am lookin for. My number one priority is finding the right neighborhood for him, number two is the cost and three is the commute.
I just feel like you were attacking the very people that made South Brunswick and similar areas of the past a desirable place to live. What is wrong with a blue collar area? Why wouldn't I want to live there? People make an honest living and don't try to be something they are not. Friendly neighbors that you can rely on. Sign me up! Regardless of what I make.
I have a soon to be 13 year old son, to who I remind of the days of when I was young and we didn't have our parents chauffering us around from one activity to another, we walked to each other's homes, played outside all day and we were told to be home before dark w/o having to worry anything in the world except having a good time. Today's kids is true, they are pampered too much, with all the gadgets they have they're not interested in socially oriented activities. Personally, I refuse to buy my son any video games, There's not a tv in his room, I tell him his bedroom is for sleeping at night, I don't want him to lock himself in there and no interact w/ mom & dad or to be outside playing. He doesn't have a his own cell phone, no personal computer either, if he's going to be using the pc for any homework related stuff, he's to do so at specific hours when mom or dad are home and if he's going to "talk" to his friends, he's to do it from the regular phone line, not using IM's. Also, when he goes and visits his friends, he's to walk or use his bike, and when he's to return home, I've advised his friends parents not to drop him off, he's to use his own 2 legs. anyhow, that's my 2 cents worth.
Any struggles you face with him with these decisions now, he will benefit from and thank you for two-fold down the road. You are a great parent. It is harder to do what you are doing than to give in. I am on your side 100%. I have given in to the tv and video games, but limit them.
You know, I wasn't sure how to take that post, but now that you have responded wileynj, I am going to jump on board. I am a school teacher and see on a daily basis the damage that is being done to our children as we shuffle them around every day. It is not a matter of money. It is a matter of ignorance. If you spent a day in an elementary school you would be able to see how socially dependent children have become. Everything that they do is structured. They need to go outside and play. Create there own rules. Rely on their neighbors rather than talk down about each other.
It is not a matter of having money - it is a matter of teaching our children values. Open your eyes Bobkovacs.
I wasn't too sure either on how to take his comments but I felt highly insulted by it! And you are absolutely correct! Seems parents are determining their children's future rather than letting them choose their own path in life. These towns that he is speaking about, the wealthy, keeping up with the Jones types of town, too often a child is given privilege because their parent's pay more for it - whether a child has earned that privilege or not, they are entitled to special treatment. Example - my better half is a paid soccer trainer/coach. Because the parents pay money for their kid to play on a travel team, they must get equal playing time... whether they play well or not! What happened to earning a place on the team? Isn't this teaching your child that money buys privilege? That you no longer have to earn your place in this world?
I think these neighberhood's still do exist. You just have to look for them. I understand exactly what your saying. I remember when i was growing up my mom used to tell me " go out and play" and we where outside playing with friends with no worries. Today everyone is locked inside on the computer or video games, or running them to eight different events to keep them busy or off the street. I think Mayberry is what we should be looking for. If you find it tell me.
Funny you should say that, My wife is from the Connecticut shoreline, West Haven CT.
She calls where we live now Mayberry ......LOL............. in Southampton, NJ
Where did I mention anything about "po folk", "country" living, or being "self-proclaimed rich"??? Don't throw words in my mouth.
reading between the lines.."blue collar...can't afford...places you may not want to live in". Translation to the reader "...blue collar people are trash! Prefer to spend money on beer and sprucing up their trailer homes than pay for private lessons for their kids. You wouldn't want these people to be your neighbors". Ok, I'm exaggerating a bit but It's my translation..my imagination - created in my head without my parent's ever having to pay a dime for private creativity training / lessons : )))
I had the opposite problem when I lived in Hillsdale, the neighbors were up my ass!! Everyday invinting me to do **** that I did not want to do. Eventually they realized that I was the Archy Bunker type and gave up. BOy did they drive me nuts!!
Many of those so called blue collar areas are places people are avoiding these days. That does not make it right or wrong. It just is what is is. Look at why people are fleeing those communities in record numbers all over the northeast. I'm not saying that it is good or right but if they were like mayberry many more people would be staying put.
I would actually agree that the people who came up in those places had a different value system. Is it really debatable? It's sad to say but some of that has gone and it's not just a question of people coming into some $$$.
I have a soon to be 13 year old son, to who I remind of the days of when I was young and we didn't have our parents chauffering us around from one activity to another, we walked to each other's homes, played outside all day and we were told to be home before dark w/o having to worry anything in the world except having a good time. Today's kids is true, they are pampered too much, with all the gadgets they have they're not interested in socially oriented activities. Personally, I refuse to buy my son any video games, There's not a tv in his room, I tell him his bedroom is for sleeping at night, I don't want him to lock himself in there and no interact w/ mom & dad or to be outside playing. He doesn't have a his own cell phone, no personal computer either, if he's going to be using the pc for any homework related stuff, he's to do so at specific hours when mom or dad are home and if he's going to "talk" to his friends, he's to do it from the regular phone line, not using IM's. Also, when he goes and visits his friends, he's to walk or use his bike, and when he's to return home, I've advised his friends parents not to drop him off, he's to use his own 2 legs. anyhow, that's my 2 cents worth.
My kids would have ran away from home if they lived there. LOL. Good job our house was and is the complete opposite.
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