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Old 05-28-2019, 08:15 AM
 
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just curious
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Old 05-28-2019, 09:15 AM
 
Location: NJ
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This has been discussed at length in many other threads. Just do a search.
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Old 05-28-2019, 09:29 AM
 
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Old 05-28-2019, 11:13 AM
 
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The biggest states that get NJ people are probably Florida followed by Pennsylvania. However on a national level, it seems everyone is leaving all these liberal states (California, Oregon, North East) to destinations of Phoenix, Denver, San Antonio, Austin, Charlotte where everyone is escaping leftism.
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Old 05-28-2019, 11:16 AM
 
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Here's a kicker.

We moved from Central Jersey to South Jersey.

Yes, while we are still in NJ, saved on housing, taxes and overall the people are friendlier.
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Old 05-28-2019, 11:34 AM
 
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The biggest states that get NJ people are probably Florida followed by Pennsylvania. However on a national level, it seems everyone is leaving all these liberal states (California, Oregon, North East) to destinations of Phoenix, Denver, San Antonio, Austin, Charlotte where everyone is escaping leftism.
could also be a COL issue with almost all of those states with the potential exception of Denver.
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Old 05-28-2019, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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The biggest states that get NJ people are probably Florida followed by Pennsylvania. However on a national level, it seems everyone is leaving all these liberal states (California, Oregon, North East) to destinations of Phoenix, Denver, San Antonio, Austin, Charlotte where everyone is escaping leftism.


Austin is very liberal. I believe Denver is also, so I’m not sure that’s where people are running to “escape leftism”

Can you not resist the urge to respond to each thread with a political take? Are you like this in person?
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Old 05-28-2019, 11:44 AM
 
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It's not really a political thing, but most people move because they want to live somewhere that's cheaper and has lower taxes. In general, liberal areas are where you'll find the highest taxes, so that's the correlation of leaving liberal areas. But of course there are exceptions to this.
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Old 05-28-2019, 11:45 AM
 
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The biggest states that get NJ people are probably Florida followed by Pennsylvania. However on a national level, it seems everyone is leaving all these liberal states (California, Oregon, North East) to destinations of Phoenix, Denver, San Antonio, Austin, Charlotte where everyone is escaping leftism.
Facts to back up your statement? Here’s what I found: https://www.census.gov/library/visua...2017-2018.html

The state that grew at the fastest rate is NV - I left N.J. for NV and it is becoming increasingly blue. Democrat governor, both senators, and three out of four US congressional representatives. Granted Idaho grew at the second-fastest rate and it is solidly red.

You mention Denver - that part of Colorado is SOLIDLY blue. Overall Colorado as a whole is dark purple- Democrat governor, senators are split, and four out of seven congressional representatives. CO also reliably votes Democrat in presidential elections.

Austin, Texas is an island of dark blue in a deep red state. I’d consider NC to be a light-purple state, but Charlotte’s US representative is a Democrat. Arizona is another light purple state, but both US representatives for the Phoenix-metro area are Democrats as is the mayor of Phoenix.

Four out of the seven states that lost population (WY, LA, MS and WV) are as red as it gets. WY is a no income tax state to boot. IL and CT which also lost population are dealing with a lot of the same problems (particularly pension obligations) that N.J. is encountering. Granted the only reason N.J. hasn’t actually lost population is because of immigration.

FWIW, Oregon is also a reasonably fast-growing state.

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Old 05-28-2019, 12:07 PM
 
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Facts to back up your statement? Here’s what I found: https://www.census.gov/library/visua...2017-2018.html

The state that grew at the fastest rate is NV - I left N.J. for NV and it is becoming increasingly blue. Democrat governor, both senators, and three out of four US congressional representatives. Granted Idaho grew at the second-fastest rate and it is solidly red.

You mention Denver - that part of Colorado is SOLIDLY blue. Overall Colorado as a whole is dark purple- Democrat governor, senators are split, and four out of seven congressional representatives. CO also reliably votes Democrat in presidential elections.

Austin, Texas is an island of dark blue in a deep red state. I’d consider NC to be a light-purple state, but Charlotte’s US representative is a Democrat. Arizona is another light purple state, but both US representatives for the Phoenix-metro area are Democrats as is the mayor of Phoenix.

Four out of the seven states that lost population (WY, LA, MS and WV) are as red as it gets. WY is a no income tax state to boot. IL and CT which also lost population are dealing with a lot of the same problems (particularly pension obligations) that N.J. is encountering. Granted the only reason N.J. hasn’t actually lost population is because of immigration.

FWIW, Oregon is also a reasonably fast-growing state.
Well i guess this went over your head, but this is not a new trend. Its been like this for 10 years now, everyone is leaving high taxed Democrat states for cheap, lower taxed better run states however still bring their political ideologies with them. All these cities are turning/have turned from bright red areas to blue. Give it another decade before these spots are all destroyed and people move to other cities that are controlled by red.
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