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Natural gas is clean , nothing is clean however its less environmentally impactful than the wind turbines and there is a thousand years worth of it 100 miles outside of the state.
Less impactful than wind turbines? Hardly. NG has a much higher CO2 output. If you are against marine mammals dying, then you should favor wind turbines as they might help reduce the increases in ocean temperatures we've seen lately.
Less impactful than wind turbines? Hardly. NG has a much higher CO2 output. If you are against marine mammals dying, then you should favor wind turbines as they might help reduce the increases in ocean temperatures we've seen lately.
just simply not true, the entire climate cult is just full of extremism, fanatical idealism, and exaggerations (lies). Natural gas doesn't create air pollution, and is significantly cleaner than any other fuel. Even if the delusional ideas about the climate were true, New Jersey already has near zero impact on the Earths climate. In global population, NJ is not even a rounding error to the third decimal place, and we are already one the cleanest energy producers in the world.
Much of the world would love to in New Jersey's shoes, we have our beautiful beaches and to be given the countries second largest natural reserve 100 miles over our state border. Never in our states and countries history, would we have ever thought that we would lot and block New Jersey's coastline to lease/sell it off to several foreign countries to destroy our environment.
Less impactful than wind turbines? Hardly. NG has a much higher CO2 output. If you are against marine mammals dying, then you should favor wind turbines as they might help reduce the increases in ocean temperatures we've seen lately.
There is no proof that wind turbines reduce ocean temperatures. It's speculation.
China produces more Co2 emissions than all the developed nations combined and have tripled emissions over the last decade with no end in sight. Wind farms off NJ won't make a dent in that.
When you dig into the reckless push for wind energy, you begin to understand the US government has gone into business with global energy conglomerates to exploit our ocean for financial gain. It's about money. It has nothing to do with saving the planet. That's the marketing campaign they push out to the public.
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just simply not true, the entire climate cult is just full of extremism, fanatical idealism, and exaggerations (lies). Natural gas doesn't create air pollution, and is significantly cleaner than any other fuel. Even if the delusional ideas about the climate were true, New Jersey already has near zero impact on the Earths climate. In global population, NJ is not even a rounding error to the third decimal place, and we are already one the cleanest energy producers in the world.
Much of the world would love to in New Jersey's shoes, we have our beautiful beaches and to be given the countries second largest natural reserve 100 miles over our state border. Never in our states and countries history, would we have ever thought that we would lot and block New Jersey's coastline to lease/sell it off to several foreign countries to destroy our environment.
When plugged into the United Nations climate model, the Biden admins Green New Deal will reduce the global temperatures by an estimated 0.028 degrees.
China produces more Co2 emissions than all the developed nations combined and have tripled emissions over the last decade with no end in sight. Wind farms off NJ won't make a dent in that.
When you dig into the reckless push for wind energy, you begin to understand the US government has gone into business with global energy conglomerates to exploit our ocean for financial gain. It's about money. It has nothing to do with saving the planet. That's the marketing campaign they push out to the public.
Wind turbines reduce ocean temperatures by reducing the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere.
We can't control China. That's not a reason to not do the right thing and preserve natural gas for future generations to use for purposes other than fuel and reduce CO2 emissions at the same time.
just simply not true, the entire climate cult is just full of extremism, fanatical idealism, and exaggerations (lies). Natural gas doesn't create air pollution, and is significantly cleaner than any other fuel. Even if the delusional ideas about the climate were true, New Jersey already has near zero impact on the Earths climate. In global population, NJ is not even a rounding error to the third decimal place, and we are already one the cleanest energy producers in the world.
Much of the world would love to in New Jersey's shoes, we have our beautiful beaches and to be given the countries second largest natural reserve 100 miles over our state border. Never in our states and countries history, would we have ever thought that we would lot and block New Jersey's coastline to lease/sell it off to several foreign countries to destroy our environment.
Natural gas doesn't produce air pollution? That's a laugh. Burning natural gas produces large quantities of CO2, mercury, Nitrogen Oxides, Sulphur compounds, and other substances. Natural gas is cleaner than oil or coal, but it's not clean.
It's not all about you, either. I am still confused as to why you think it's OK for the Gulf of Mexico to be industrialized, but not the Atlantic off of New Jersey. NJ isn't special.
Natural gas doesn't produce air pollution? That's a laugh. Burning natural gas produces large quantities of CO2, mercury, Nitrogen Oxides, Sulphur compounds, and other substances. Natural gas is cleaner than oil or coal, but it's not clean.
It's not all about you, either. I am still confused as to why you think it's OK for the Gulf of Mexico to be industrialized, but not the Atlantic off of New Jersey. NJ isn't special.
Co2 is not a pollutant, its the same stuff that your body exhales and what trees need to breath. Again, what does the Gulf have to with NJ? NJ gets zero of its energy from Gulf.
NJ is not special? Then why don't you leave??? The Jersey Shore is special as its a migratory pathway for hundreds of species of birds, and mammals. Its a tourist destination for the state (its actually one of the largest drivers of NJ's economy), and its fisheries. It's one of the most important parts of the state, and for the people. The Governor see's dollar signs, transfer of power, and doesn't vacation at the Jersey Shore, nor has he ever had as he's from Massachusetts and stays in his 24 bedroom villa in Italy during the summers as Governor, in which he travels private jet (so much for the environment right?). There is nothing in this discussion that is good for NJ, and hence why the Governor had to change laws and put out a 1,000 page reference paper on how they would get this approved without any of the peoples say.
Wind turbines reduce ocean temperatures by reducing the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere.
We can't control China. That's not a reason to not do the right thing and preserve natural gas for future generations to use for purposes other than fuel and reduce CO2 emissions at the same time.
Why are you so certain wind turbines are the right thing to do? Wind turbines of this size and quantity have never been deployed before anywhere on earth. It's entirely experimental. Where is the proof that they will reduce the co2 levels? Or stop the warming of the ocean?
The U.N. hypothetical model predicts a 0.028 reduction.
This estimated tiny reduction is being used to justify the industrialization of our ocean.
Why are you so certain wind turbines are the right thing to do? Wind turbines of this size and quantity have never been deployed before anywhere on earth. It's entirely experimental. Where is the proof that they will reduce the co2 levels? Or stop the warming of the ocean?
The U.N. hypothetical model predicts a 0.028 reduction.
This estimated tiny reduction is being used to justify the industrialization of our ocean.
That seems like a good trade off to you?
I find it odd that the American companies mostly have bowed out of the project and its all foreign companies who will build and take in the revenues from our electric here on out. Meanwhile there is a senile president saying its creating great union jobs, for who? Spain, Norway?
I find it odd that the American companies mostly have bowed out of the project and its all foreign companies who will build and take in the revenues from our electric here on out. Meanwhile there is a senile president saying its creating great union jobs, for who? Spain, Norway?
It's predicted that 4,000 union jobs will be created in NJ. If you look at the marketing for the wind industry is all about creating jobs. Helping climate change is low on the list of benefits.
The unions will funnel money into the pockets of politicians who support the wind industry.
My understanding is that the European wind developers had their supply chains in place already and could start ASAP. The Biden admin is in a huge rush to start the projects before the public wakes up and starts to oppose the projects and/or they lose the next election. This is what has happened in Europe, opposition grows.
Apparently the projects must be started by a certain date before the wind developer gets federal subsides of up to 30% - 80%.
American supply chains are developing. This is about creating union jobs. Not saving the planet.
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just simply not true, the entire climate cult is just full of extremism, fanatical idealism, and exaggerations (lies). Natural gas doesn't create air pollution, and is significantly cleaner than any other fuel. Even if the delusional ideas about the climate were true, New Jersey already has near zero impact on the Earths climate. In global population, NJ is not even a rounding error to the third decimal place, and we are already one the cleanest energy producers in the world.
