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New Mexico does indeed seem to have a love/hate relationship with me. I was born and raised in Albuquerque, and moved back here from the L.A. area in 2003. I have also been to Denver, Phoenix, Miami, Las Vegas, Seattle and a few other American cities. Both have their positives and negatives.
However, there are things I love and things I absolutely HATE about NM. Here they are:
Things I Love About NM
1. Natural beauty. Like others before, geographically NM is one of the most beautiful places on earth. The vastness, the colors, the solitude and the way man is in touch with nature is found here like no other place on earth. CA and CO are on par with NM in this category, except in pure solitude where NM wins hands down.
2. The People. How can you not love New Mexicans? They are, for the most part, friendly and down to earth. Very spiritual, very open and hospitable. My family is all here too.
3. The food. Only in New Mexico can you get a blue corn green chile chicken enchilada for $7.50 that is to die for. Not even in L.A. can you find this kind of unique and delicious food.
4. Community. I grew up with the sense of a small town community. You can find it everywhere in NM. No one needs the fortune or 15 minutes of fame for them to do something good for the community. Just take a look at the Martinez family from the Trumbull neighborhood who appeared on "Extreme Makeover". We truly have a community like that.
Things I Hate About New Mexico
1. The culture. Yes, you read that right. The culture here sucks. Nowhere in the world have I ever met such mean, jealous, disgusting, uneducated dreks of society than in NM. Although the good outweigh the bad, this state is full of jerks. You have a nice house? We'll will burn it down? You have a nice car? We'll scratch it up. You make good money? We'll steal it. You are happy? We'll make sure you're miserable. You are good looking? We'll beat you up. Seems like every time I go out someone wants to either, a.) insult me b.) fight me, c.) shoot me, d.) all of the above. No where else, including gang ridden L.A. have I ever encountered such a bunch of disrespectful, self-hating lowlifes. From Española, to snooty Santa Fe, to redneck Valencia County to my own hometown of Albuquerque. WHAT IS IT WITH YOU PEOPLE??? Most of you are great, down home folks. But a great part of you are just jerks. Grow up and leave me alone for crying out loud. You want something, go and get it your damn self.
*Side note: As an example, I was going to a store in Alb. the other day to pick up a film and some milk. I walked into the the men's room and accidentally bumped into another dude. I said, "sorry". He said, "no problem." Then walked by and said, "Stupid **** maricón". Real class act there, buddy.
2. Gangs. They are everywhere. Whether you are hardcore or just some douchebag wannabe, you will find a little gangbanger in every corner of this state. You will see little vato Charlie in his $1,000 car with the financed rims that would have bought the high school dropout 2 years at CNM. Again, not even when I lived in L.A. did I experience a saturation of gang culture. It's a joke and it makes me sick. Instead of being nice and acting 'proper', they just wander around aimlessly looking for a fight. What a waste of air these subhumans are.
4. No Infrastructure/Attractions. Where are the concert halls (no, Tingley & Journal Pavilion do not count [Paulo Soleri DOES]), museums, pro sports teams, big parks, public transit system, corporate headquarters and police forces that all other cities have? Oh, that's right. They are in OTHER CITIES!!! Why we cannot retain Microsoft, lure a pro sports franchise and bring in NASCAR is beyond me. That's why we suffer financially. Which brings me to...
5. No money. Seriously, other than Mississippi, where in the U.S. can you find such a poverty stricken state? In NM, we have the labs, bases and school systems. That's it! Where are all the promised industries that we are supposed to get like the big boy cities? Intel will be moving to Vietnam, we almost lost Kirtland (which would have brought the state to 3rd world status immediately), and they pay teachers yearly the equivalent of a porn star's daily salary. All of this is related to...
6. A corrupt government. Yep, that good 'ol boy Spanish caste system of NM sure has helped us out a lot for the last 300 years, hasn't it? I mean, when the mayor of Albuquerque, Marty Chavez, is a corrupt thug who got the courts to throw out the state constitution so he can get elected for as many terms as he wants... and when the most powerful state senator, Manny Aragon, who was there for 3 decades, is tied to the Mexican mob and ripped off millions in tax dollars... and countless other idiots in the caste system (Chavez's wife is an Aragon) go on with impunity for decades, what did you expect? Justice? HA! This is the 2nd most politically corrupt state in the union. And they just keep on getting elected.
7. The 'school' system. When you have one of the highest dropout rates in the country along with one of the highest teen pregnancy rates, things just don't seem to look up here in NM. These are the future leaders of NM here, folks.
All in all, the bad are outweighing the good for me right now. I am seriously contemplating a move to San Diego, where I can get a decent house at a decent price (prices are coming down), live near a beach, be surrounded by friendly people and gorgeous women, and have a decent job that pays a good salary. I've lived in NM for over 5 years now and I think I am at the end of my rope here. About the only thing that is keeping me here is my family. Jobs don't pay well here and things just don't get done.
I love NM and all, but I think it's time for me to move on.
New Mexico does indeed seem to have a love/hate relationship with me. I was born and raised in Albuquerque, and moved back here from the L.A. area in 2003. I have also been to Denver, Phoenix, Miami, Las Vegas, Seattle and a few other American cities. Both have their positives and negatives.
However, there are things I love and things I absolutely HATE about NM. Here they are:
Things I Love About NM
1. Natural beauty. Like others before, geographically NM is one of the most beautiful places on earth. The vastness, the colors, the solitude and the way man is in touch with nature is found here like no other place on earth. CA and CO are on par with NM in this category, except in pure solitude where NM wins hands down.
2. The People. How can you not love New Mexicans? They are, for the most part, friendly and down to earth. Very spiritual, very open and hospitable. My family is all here too.
3. The food. Only in New Mexico can you get a blue corn green chile chicken enchilada for $7.50 that is to die for. Not even in L.A. can you find this kind of unique and delicious food.
4. Community. I grew up with the sense of a small town community. You can find it everywhere in NM. No one needs the fortune or 15 minutes of fame for them to do something good for the community. Just take a look at the Martinez family from the Trumbull neighborhood who appeared on "Extreme Makeover". We truly have a community like that.
Things I Hate About New Mexico
1. The culture. Yes, you read that right. The culture here sucks. Nowhere in the world have I ever met such mean, jealous, disgusting, uneducated dreks of society than in NM. Although the good outweigh the bad, this state is full of jerks. You have a nice house? We'll will burn it down? You have a nice car? We'll scratch it up. You make good money? We'll steal it. You are happy? We'll make sure you're miserable. You are good looking? We'll beat you up. Seems like every time I go out someone wants to either, a.) insult me b.) fight me, c.) shoot me, d.) all of the above. No where else, including gang ridden L.A. have I ever encountered such a bunch of disrespectful, self-hating lowlifes. From Española, to snooty Santa Fe, to redneck Valencia County to my own hometown of Albuquerque. WHAT IS IT WITH YOU PEOPLE??? Most of you are great, down home folks. But a great part of you are just jerks. Grow up and leave me alone for crying out loud. You want something, go and get it your damn self.
*Side note: As an example, I was going to a store in Alb. the other day to pick up a film and some milk. I walked into the the men's room and accidentally bumped into another dude. I said, "sorry". He said, "no problem." Then walked by and said, "Stupid **** maricón". Real class act there, buddy.
2. Gangs. They are everywhere. Whether you are hardcore or just some douchebag wannabe, you will find a little gangbanger in every corner of this state. You will see little vato Charlie in his $1,000 car with the financed rims that would have bought the high school dropout 2 years at CNM. Again, not even when I lived in L.A. did I experience a saturation of gang culture. It's a joke and it makes me sick. Instead of being nice and acting 'proper', they just wander around aimlessly looking for a fight. What a waste of air these subhumans are.
4. No Infrastructure/Attractions. Where are the concert halls (no, Tingley & Journal Pavilion do not count [Paulo Soleri DOES]), museums, pro sports teams, big parks, public transit system, corporate headquarters and police forces that all other cities have? Oh, that's right. They are in OTHER CITIES!!! Why we cannot retain Microsoft, lure a pro sports franchise and bring in NASCAR is beyond me. That's why we suffer financially. Which brings me to...
5. No money. Seriously, other than Mississippi, where in the U.S. can you find such a poverty stricken state? In NM, we have the labs, bases and school systems. That's it! Where are all the promised industries that we are supposed to get like the big boy cities? Intel will be moving to Vietnam, we almost lost Kirtland (which would have brought the state to 3rd world status immediately), and they pay teachers yearly the equivalent of a porn star's daily salary. All of this is related to...
6. A corrupt government. Yep, that good 'ol boy Spanish caste system of NM sure has helped us out a lot for the last 300 years, hasn't it? I mean, when the mayor of Albuquerque, Marty Chavez, is a corrupt thug who got the courts to throw out the state constitution so he can get elected for as many terms as he wants... and when the most powerful state senator, Manny Aragon, who was there for 3 decades, is tied to the Mexican mob and ripped off millions in tax dollars... and countless other idiots in the caste system (Chavez's wife is an Aragon) go on with impunity for decades, what did you expect? Justice? HA! This is the 2nd most politically corrupt state in the union. And they just keep on getting elected.
7. The 'school' system. When you have one of the highest dropout rates in the country along with one of the highest teen pregnancy rates, things just don't seem to look up here in NM. These are the future leaders of NM here, folks.
All in all, the bad are outweighing the good for me right now. I am seriously contemplating a move to San Diego, where I can get a decent house at a decent price (prices are coming down), live near a beach, be surrounded by friendly people and gorgeous women, and have a decent job that pays a good salary. I've lived in NM for over 5 years now and I think I am at the end of my rope here. About the only thing that is keeping me here is my family. Jobs don't pay well here and things just don't get done.
I love NM and all, but I think it's time for me to move on.
Good post, I agree with almost all of it and I pretty much feel the same way you do.Im a lifelong NM resident and I pretty much have an idea of how the state is from one corner to the other,I know others may not agree and think you are bashing but sometimes you gotta get what frustrates you off your chest.I love NM and I think it would be hard for me to leave this state but I do enjoy living here.
I know Cali pays better than NM but with the cost of living I dont think it even balances out, or does it.
The culture sounds pretty much like New Hampshire but the names are different. There are good people and useless people everywhere so where you are probably won't make a difference. How you react to them will.
FWIW - most of the things that really irritate are poverty related and sound like the North Country of NH. This area has lost almost all of its manufacturing industry and is barely surviving on tourism and moderately wealthy retirees and second homebuyers. It is, like much of New Mexico “a bring your own job or at least income” area.
How do you reconcile #2 on your "love" list with #1 on your "hate" list?
You either think the New Mexican people are friendly, down to earth, very spiritual, very open and hospitable.....or you think New Mexicans are mean, jealous, disgusting, uneducated dreks of society and the state is full of jerks.
You say the good outweighs the bad, but you still seem to be talking in a lot of generalities..New Mexican people are good people but on the other hand are jerks. I hope you don't live your daily life trying to place everyone you encounter into one box or another.
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I think it's time for me to move on.
Based on your post, I would have to agree. I hope you find the place you are looking for.
How do you reconcile #2 on your "love" list with #1 on your "hate" list?
You either think the New Mexican people are friendly, down to earth, very spiritual, very open and hospitable.....or you think New Mexicans are mean, jealous, disgusting, uneducated dreks of society and the state is full of jerks.
You say the good outweighs the bad, but you still seem to be talking in a lot of generalities..New Mexican people are good people but on the other hand are jerks. I hope you don't live your daily life trying to place everyone you encounter into one box or another.
Based on your post, I would have to agree. I hope you find the place you are looking for.
That's a good post Towanda as i'm as confused as you are ?? and as you always say to poisters ''Reps for you'' so i'll do the same for you.
New Mexico does indeed seem to have a love/hate relationship with me. I was born and raised in Albuquerque, and moved back here from the L.A. area in 2003. I have also been to Denver, Phoenix, Miami, Las Vegas, Seattle and a few other American cities. Both have their positives and negatives.
However, there are things I love and things I absolutely HATE about NM. Here they are:
Things I Love About NM
1. Natural beauty. Like others before, geographically NM is one of the most beautiful places on earth. The vastness, the colors, the solitude and the way man is in touch with nature is found here like no other place on earth. CA and CO are on par with NM in this category, except in pure solitude where NM wins hands down.
2. The People. How can you not love New Mexicans? They are, for the most part, friendly and down to earth. Very spiritual, very open and hospitable. My family is all here too.
3. The food. Only in New Mexico can you get a blue corn green chile chicken enchilada for $7.50 that is to die for. Not even in L.A. can you find this kind of unique and delicious food.
4. Community. I grew up with the sense of a small town community. You can find it everywhere in NM. No one needs the fortune or 15 minutes of fame for them to do something good for the community. Just take a look at the Martinez family from the Trumbull neighborhood who appeared on "Extreme Makeover". We truly have a community like that.
Things I Hate About New Mexico
1. The culture. Yes, you read that right. The culture here sucks. Nowhere in the world have I ever met such mean, jealous, disgusting, uneducated dreks of society than in NM. Although the good outweigh the bad, this state is full of jerks. You have a nice house? We'll will burn it down? You have a nice car? We'll scratch it up. You make good money? We'll steal it. You are happy? We'll make sure you're miserable. You are good looking? We'll beat you up. Seems like every time I go out someone wants to either, a.) insult me b.) fight me, c.) shoot me, d.) all of the above. No where else, including gang ridden L.A. have I ever encountered such a bunch of disrespectful, self-hating lowlifes. From Española, to snooty Santa Fe, to redneck Valencia County to my own hometown of Albuquerque. WHAT IS IT WITH YOU PEOPLE??? Most of you are great, down home folks. But a great part of you are just jerks. Grow up and leave me alone for crying out loud. You want something, go and get it your damn self.
*Side note: As an example, I was going to a store in Alb. the other day to pick up a film and some milk. I walked into the the men's room and accidentally bumped into another dude. I said, "sorry". He said, "no problem." Then walked by and said, "Stupid **** maricón". Real class act there, buddy.
2. Gangs. They are everywhere. Whether you are hardcore or just some douchebag wannabe, you will find a little gangbanger in every corner of this state. You will see little vato Charlie in his $1,000 car with the financed rims that would have bought the high school dropout 2 years at CNM. Again, not even when I lived in L.A. did I experience a saturation of gang culture. It's a joke and it makes me sick. Instead of being nice and acting 'proper', they just wander around aimlessly looking for a fight. What a waste of air these subhumans are.
4. No Infrastructure/Attractions. Where are the concert halls (no, Tingley & Journal Pavilion do not count [Paulo Soleri DOES]), museums, pro sports teams, big parks, public transit system, corporate headquarters and police forces that all other cities have? Oh, that's right. They are in OTHER CITIES!!! Why we cannot retain Microsoft, lure a pro sports franchise and bring in NASCAR is beyond me. That's why we suffer financially. Which brings me to...
5. No money. Seriously, other than Mississippi, where in the U.S. can you find such a poverty stricken state? In NM, we have the labs, bases and school systems. That's it! Where are all the promised industries that we are supposed to get like the big boy cities? Intel will be moving to Vietnam, we almost lost Kirtland (which would have brought the state to 3rd world status immediately), and they pay teachers yearly the equivalent of a porn star's daily salary. All of this is related to...
6. A corrupt government. Yep, that good 'ol boy Spanish caste system of NM sure has helped us out a lot for the last 300 years, hasn't it? I mean, when the mayor of Albuquerque, Marty Chavez, is a corrupt thug who got the courts to throw out the state constitution so he can get elected for as many terms as he wants... and when the most powerful state senator, Manny Aragon, who was there for 3 decades, is tied to the Mexican mob and ripped off millions in tax dollars... and countless other idiots in the caste system (Chavez's wife is an Aragon) go on with impunity for decades, what did you expect? Justice? HA! This is the 2nd most politically corrupt state in the union. And they just keep on getting elected.
7. The 'school' system. When you have one of the highest dropout rates in the country along with one of the highest teen pregnancy rates, things just don't seem to look up here in NM. These are the future leaders of NM here, folks.
All in all, the bad are outweighing the good for me right now. I am seriously contemplating a move to San Diego, where I can get a decent house at a decent price (prices are coming down), live near a beach, be surrounded by friendly people and gorgeous women, and have a decent job that pays a good salary. I've lived in NM for over 5 years now and I think I am at the end of my rope here. About the only thing that is keeping me here is my family. Jobs don't pay well here and things just don't get done.
I love NM and all, but I think it's time for me to move on.
Sorry Mortimer as i know you hate it when poisters post an entire LONG post but i want to point out some of these issues on here.
First off this poster with his 1 post sounds very much like the reciently BANNED poster ''Handsome'' that moderator EnjoyEP banned.
1. You really believe EVERYBODY all 2.1 million residents is mean, disgusting, jealous and uneducated dreks of society as you stated???? So EVERY house is burned down and EVERY car is scratched?? Because someone bumped into you and your feelings got hurt and we are all 2.1 million residents to blame?? This is too funny ...lol...lol...did you call your MOMMY !!!
2. Gangs EVERYWHERE....yeah i wish i could see them as i currently live in Southeast abq and have yet to be shot at or threatened. When you lived in LA you NEVER felt threatened by gangs well then have fun there where there are over 75,000 gangs there. Have fun.
3 or 4. So what there are NO pro sports here WHO CARES!! and if i need that i'll move back to Florida where we had every major pro sport and 3 major universities in college sports and it didn't interest me a bit. Have fun spending on your $100.00 tickets to EACH game.
5. Ranked Up with Mississippi...have you really been to the south and appalachia?? Well tell me more and in detail and places since i've lived and been thru out the south and know her well as i'm a Southerner with extensive family thru out in the southern states there and i can tell you that you haven't seen poverty if you say NM is the worst. Those people out there would spit on you for saying they got it better than us.
6. Corrupt Gov??? Sure there is and we have a United States Federal Attorney who see's to it they are prosecuted. I believe several former state treasuers are now in Federal Prison rotting away.
7. Schools system is not very good and you know what else??? It sucks in most of the United States also. Read these other city forums around the country here on city data about how bad their schools are also.
By the way that's fine that some people like you hate NM and you are entitled to point out things you find wrong as we need all sides to the story in any state or city as there are cities and states that i have lived in before that i didn't like but most of what you said is way overboard with exaggeration and i'm going to call these people out when ''Over Exaggeration'' is used on here.
Yeah you sure sound like a poster that was banned reciently but i'll let the Moderators determine that.
But best of luck out in San Diego.
6/3
Last edited by Six Foot Three; 06-23-2008 at 04:00 PM..
I think some posts are taken out of context here,with an open mind and an understanding for both ways of thought I see where most people are comming from and I understand what people may mean even if its not the way it is worded.
for instance on the gangs, LA is a metro of 17+million, of course running into gang members or wanna be thugs is gonna be more common in a smaller metro, I see em every day also. I grew up as a rowdy kid here in NM gettin into some trouble, I think if your young you notice this kind of stuff more often.
Great post 6/3! I for one love my little corner of the world and wouldn't trade it for any other place in the country!
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