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Old 01-02-2021, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Metro Atlanta
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New Orleans isn't getting the growth of it's Southern peers such as Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, and Miami. Atlanta and Dallas have well diversified economies which helps their growth. Houston's economy isn't as well diversified but it's much more livable and growing faster than New Orleans. Miami has a weak economy with low wages but it's growing alot more than New Orleans is. New Orleans's metro should at least be the size of Charlotte's metro. With the unique, valuable trademark New Orleans has, it should be bigger than what it is. New Orleans is one of the most unique, cultural cities in the Southeast but the QOL is one of the worst with bad schools, poverty, and crime. From the 70s to early 90s, Atlanta was a murder capital similar to New Orleans. Atlanta improved after the Olympics came through but New Orleans is still stagnant. I'm very well aware that Hurricane Katrina set New Orleans back but it's still having issues like it did pre-Katrina. New Orleans has tourism but is very blue collar and lacks corporations. How can New Orleans attract corporations? Why isn't gentrification hitting New Orleans like Atlanta? Is gentrification the only way New Orleans can grow?
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Old 01-02-2021, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Formerly NYC by week; ATL by weekend...now Rio bi annually and ATL bi annually
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New Orleans isn't getting the growth of it's Southern peers such as Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, and Miami. Atlanta and Dallas have well diversified economies which helps their growth. Houston's economy isn't as well diversified but it's much more livable and growing faster than New Orleans. Miami has a weak economy with low wages but it's growing alot more than New Orleans is. New Orleans's metro should at least be the size of Charlotte's metro. With the unique, valuable trademark New Orleans has, it should be bigger than what it is. New Orleans is one of the most unique, cultural cities in the Southeast but the QOL is one of the worst with bad schools, poverty, and crime. From the 70s to early 90s, Atlanta was a murder capital similar to New Orleans. Atlanta improved after the Olympics came through but New Orleans is still stagnant. I'm very well aware that Hurricane Katrina set New Orleans back but it's still having issues like it did pre-Katrina. New Orleans has tourism but is very blue collar and lacks corporations. How can New Orleans attract corporations? Why isn't gentrification hitting New Orleans like Atlanta? Is gentrification the only way New Orleans can grow?
Attracting economic investment. Retaining the educated population. When I graduated with my Finance degrees from UNO, the president of the school spoke at our commencement and asked why the city wasnt retaining us...why ATL, Dallas, Houston, etc were landing spots for educated natives of NOLA. For me and most people I know it was economics. The city has money but like many, many other places the opportunities are are not open for everyone. Add to that crooked politicians, you get decades long stagnation. When the oil companies left and closed their Canal street offices, that was a sign. When the East turned from prospective economic engine to desolute, that was a reminder. Katrina was just the kick in the gut. The root cause of your inquiry is rooted in systemic disenfranchisement, municipal (and state) ineptitude for true economic development that is condusive to NOLA, it does not have to change the character of the city at all......and the unwillingness to change for the powers that be. They are comfortable how things are. The money has always been there...the growth has always been stagnated.
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Old 01-03-2021, 12:25 AM
 
Location: Sacramento
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I recently read on another place-based forum that “New Orleans is the most ‘Right-Brained’ city in America.” And while NOLA can indeed take pride in its rich artistic, cultural and musical heritage, there needs to be more of a balance in order to stem the brain drain. NOLA must get serious about arresting the “Three Cs”: Crime, Corruption and Complacency. Perhaps it should revision itself as the “Silicon Bayou” and position itself to attract more high value-added industries and services.
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Old 01-03-2021, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Formerly NYC by week; ATL by weekend...now Rio bi annually and ATL bi annually
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I recently read on another place-based forum that “New Orleans is the most ‘Right-Brained’ city in America.” And while NOLA can indeed take pride in its rich artistic, cultural and musical heritage, there needs to be more of a balance in order to stem the brain drain. NOLA must get serious about arresting the “Three Cs”: Crime, Corruption and Complacency. Perhaps it should revision itself as the “Silicon Bayou” and position itself to attract more high value-added industries and services.
I dont know if you recall, but prior to Katrina the city had the moniker that ATL now holds as the Hollywood of the south. I agree that the hospitality industry cannot sustain the region. But politics and of course Katrina dealt body blows. And at that time the public spectacle of Edwin Edwards, Cleo Fileds and Eddie DeBartolo Jr. didnt help. To your point, there needs to be a concerted effort to compliment the anecdotal charm and culture we have.
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Old 01-03-2021, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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New Orleans was Hollywood South before Katrina? It was Hollywood South just in 2015.

But poverty, and opportunities are the reason people leave. It's the reason I left. State money goes to oil and gas, that's the only significant industry that pays well, and they hold us hostage. Our infrastructure is trash so other industries don't want to relocate here, we need to keep our own graduates in state, offer them gainful employment in their field (outside of petroleum engineering), and give them a high QOL. That doesn't exist in any Louisiana Parish. I'd love to come back but people are too happy with being #50.
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Old 01-05-2021, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Atlanta Metro Area (OTP North)
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I recently read on another place-based forum that “New Orleans is the most ‘Right-Brained’ city in America.” And while NOLA can indeed take pride in its rich artistic, cultural and musical heritage, there needs to be more of a balance in order to stem the brain drain. NOLA must get serious about arresting the “Three Cs”: Crime, Corruption and Complacency. Perhaps it should revision itself as the “Silicon Bayou” and position itself to attract more high value-added industries and services.


Well stated. +1




You know its funny - I get the question from time to time, asking if I'd ever move back home. I usually respond with "no" pretty quickly, but the real answer is a bit more complicated.

The economy in Louisiana is just completely trash...and the weak economy is what causes such massive poverty, bad schools, crime, poor infrastructure, etc. Those in power with the ability to change this course are way too self-serving to actually care. So the wages will continue to be some of the lowest in the nation. The schools will continue to be some of the poorest performing in the nation. The crime will continue to be among the highest of cities this size.

For a very long I was a NOLA homer - ever hopeful that New Orleans would embrace the tech industry and really take off. But nowadays I'm not as hopeful for the city I call home. I view my entire homestate as a more cultured and interesting version of Mississippi. There really isn't much difference.

It pains me that New Orleans has become a one-trick pony. Come for a good time & good food, then leave and go back to where you can live comfortably and earn a good living.


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Old 01-08-2021, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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Well stated. +1




You know its funny - I get the question from time to time, asking if I'd ever move back home. I usually respond with "no" pretty quickly, but the real answer is a bit more complicated.

The economy in Louisiana is just completely trash...and the weak economy is what causes such massive poverty, bad schools, crime, poor infrastructure, etc. Those in power with the ability to change this course are way too self-serving to actually care. So the wages will continue to be some of the lowest in the nation. The schools will continue to be some of the poorest performing in the nation. The crime will continue to be among the highest of cities this size.

For a very long I was a NOLA homer - ever hopeful that New Orleans would embrace the tech industry and really take off. But nowadays I'm not as hopeful for the city I call home. I view my entire homestate as a more cultured and interesting version of Mississippi. There really isn't much difference.

It pains me that New Orleans has become a one-trick pony. Come for a good time & good food, then leave and go back to where you can live comfortably and earn a good living.


Yeah its sad. I'd love to move back but I simply can't. Also sucks seeing friends and family stay there thinking that its nice or getting better or just being satisfied with squalor.
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Old 01-10-2021, 10:58 AM
 
Location: New Orleans
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If the city invest in economic growth I think most other things will fall in place. The city still is slowly improving and there is noticeable construction and infrastructure improvements taking place throughout the city, so it's not a total hopeless cause. At the same time, there is a feeling that things are stagnating. The post-Katrina high growth and high hopes have noticeably dulled and Covid related stings have dealt a blow (showing how overly tourist dependent we are). The city still offers a lot and if you have the right job in the right area, life can be pretty good.

The funniest part about it is New Orleans has seen huge reinvestment and gentrification in the last 15 years. In fact probably the biggest complaint one can make is how expensive rent and home prices have become. The flip side of that is where is the comparable economic growth and quality of life changes to justify the crazy increases? Time will tell I guess.
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Old 01-10-2021, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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If the city invest in economic growth I think most other things will fall in place. The city still is slowly improving and there is noticeable construction and infrastructure improvements taking place throughout the city, so it's not a total hopeless cause. At the same time, there is a feeling that things are stagnating. The post-Katrina high growth and high hopes have noticeably dulled and Covid related stings have dealt a blow (showing how overly tourist dependent we are). The city still offers a lot and if you have the right job in the right area, life can be pretty good.

The funniest part about it is New Orleans has seen huge reinvestment and gentrification in the last 15 years. In fact probably the biggest complaint one can make is how expensive rent and home prices have become. The flip side of that is where is the comparable economic growth and quality of life changes to justify the crazy increases? Time will tell I guess.
Probably won't happen in my lifetime and I'm only 29. There's no desire to change.
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Old 01-10-2021, 11:10 PM
 
Location: New Orleans
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Probably won't happen in my lifetime and I'm only 29. There's no desire to change.
Well I'm not that pessimistic or harsh. I still think the city is on the right trajectory even if things have slowed.
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