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Old 06-21-2022, 09:05 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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I've read several times that only one application per household is allowed and subject to disqualification if violated. Here's my situation...

My oldest child lives at home, but is looking to move out and registered with Housing Connect as a single and has applied to several listings.

I have registered with Housing Connect as a family of 3 (the rest of us). We have also applied to several listings - many of the listings are the same as my oldest child.

Since we all currently live in the same household and we applied to the same listings, are we in violation? Even though we are each looking for different arrangements?


Anyone have experience with this? I couldn't find the answer in the Handbook.
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Old 06-21-2022, 10:04 AM
 
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It is a very good question, and I can't give you a definitive answer.

Back in 2014, Penn South opened up its wait list, and my young-adult daughter, who was living at home, wanted to apply. I wanted to apply also, separately.

Like you, I was worried both applications would be matched up and discarded. I called the Penn South office and actually reached a live person. She told me that it was okay for us to apply as two households, even though we had the same address, so we did.

It turns out that none of us made it onto the Penn South wait list that year, so I can't tell you if we were successful or not.

My fear is that they just run a computer program to match up addresses and apartment numbers, and not take the time to have a person look at it and see that the occupants are not the same.

That's my only experience, since after that my daughter moved out and we each applied to Penn South again in 2019 under our separate addresses. Sorry for the non answer!

Logically, it makes sense that your young adult would be applying on her own. In your case, I assume she is applying for a studio or one-bedroom, and you would be applying for a larger apartment, and technically not "the same" lottery.

There must be an "official" way to ask!
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Old 06-21-2022, 10:07 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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It is a very good question, and I can't give you a definitive answer.

Back in 2014, Penn South opened up its wait list, and my young-adult daughter, who was living at home, wanted to apply. I wanted to apply also, separately.

Like you, I was worried both applications would be matched up and discarded. I called the Penn South office and actually reached a live person. She told me that it was okay for us to apply as two households, so we did.

It turns out that none of us made it onto the Penn South wait list that year, so I can't tell you if we were successful or not.

My fear is that they just run a computer program to match up addresses and apartment numbers, and not take the time to have a person look at it and see that the occupants are not the same.

That's my only experience, since after that my daughter moved out and we each applied to Penn South again in 2019 under our separate addresses. Sorry for the non answer!

There must be an "official" way to ask!
This is a great answer - thank you. But I guess I will need to contact each listing individually. I got a great log # for 266 Kent, my child got a 30,xxx log #. I've heard nothing and I'm nervous that I was disqualified. My child has since 'withdrawn' their 266 Kent app so hopefully that will help. I'll try to call.
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Old 06-21-2022, 10:08 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Very good question! I agree with macnyc that it should count as separate households and not as duplicate applications. I'd say try calling HPD, they have been very helpful when I had questions or needed assistance.
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Old 06-21-2022, 10:10 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Very good question! I agree with macnyc that it should count as separate households and not as duplicate applications. I'd say try calling HPD, they have been very helpful when I had questions or needed assistance.
Will do! But I wonder, like @macnyc2003 noted, if they just run the apps through an algorithm and reject duplicate addresses. I'll try to find out.
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Old 06-21-2022, 10:18 AM
 
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Yes, and when you do find out, please post it here, because I'm sure others have been wondering.
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Old 06-21-2022, 10:56 AM
 
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I heard one of my friend's friend won and have been living in the lottery unit, and their family members have applied for the same lottery separately for a long time. I'm not sure if they ended up winning the lottery unit they've applied for it at the same time, tho. I felt it was a bit unfair when I heard that since I'm single but also understandable because a single household has more options as I could live with a roommate, etc. I probably would do the same if I had other family members to live with. I'd love to know the answer too!
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Old 06-21-2022, 11:11 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Yes, and when you do find out, please post it here, because I'm sure others have been wondering.
I left a voicemail message with HPD. I'm sure they're thinking, if we ignore him, he'll go away. They don't know me very well
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Old 06-21-2022, 11:13 AM
 
Location: New York City
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I left a voicemail message with HPD. I'm sure they're thinking, if we ignore him, he'll go away. They don't know me very well
Ha yes, keep on them! Did you call 212-863-7990? That is the number I've been able to reach someone each time. Good luck!
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Old 06-21-2022, 11:15 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Ha yes, keep on them! Did you call 212-863-7990? That is the number I've been able to reach someone each time. Good luck!
212-863-7990 - yes.
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